Yes, and in a loving God. "Some day after we have mastered the winds, the waves, the tides and gravity, we will harness for God the energies of love, and then for the second time in the history of the world, man will have discovered fire!" Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
Yes I do! And I truly love Him! Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior. I am so glad I know him. He helps me on those days when I don't think I can make it. I can't imagine going thru this life without him.
My faith in our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ is the one and only thing that has kept me going, Over14 surg. In 1986 after spending three months in Rehab hosp, I went home in a wheelchair, told never to walk on my own. Even to this day, just had myleogram done last year, every dr. Has asked the same question.... How are you walking! My total spine is involved with arthritis ,Aracknoiditis ,tumors, fusions that have fused and then we have those that did not, not to include the surgical clip left in, lol.So you see, only God could do such a daily miracle, whether it is a 100 step day vs 1000 step day. I am thankful for each day. O I came out of that chair, in 1993. I am tired now and use my brand new red one when those bad days come along.
I not only believe in a God, I believe His Name is Jesus. I don't believe that God gave me the sicknesses I have, but I believe he allows it, just like he did with Job. I know that my sicknesses have come from choices I and my parents, granparents and etc have made. We are and have never lived in the prefection that God wants us to and now we are paying for it. We haven't treated our bodies as the Temple of yhe Holy Spirit. I totally believe that we serve a God who heals, restores and gives grace, so I know that God can do it at any stage. My opinion is that I have given my life to Jesus. That means that whatever He allows me to go through, I will gothrough with praise and worship because "His Grace is Sufficient for me". I trust him because I know that "he has plans to prosper me and not harm me, plans to give me a hope and future". With promises like that, I know I'm in good hands no matter what I go through.
Kriket, you said it the best! The only thing I could add is that as He allows us to go through these physical trials, He is also building our mental & spiritual strengths. I will never ask for total healing, only His will be done! I'm closer to Him now than I've ever been, and if sickness is what it takes to keep me focused on my blessings & creator, I am thankful. I know future and what lies ahead for me... 🙏
I believe in some type of higher power. Not sure exactly what. I know after having catholic school shoved down my throat for 6 years and not being allowed to ask a nun any simple questions like what a word meant, I was just a curious child and wanted to learn what I was saying. I also know that when out of pure frustration I took apart my roseary and threw them at the nun she told my mom that I did not need to return. Amen and thank you. If you cannot ask what something means as a child that is called brainwashing. I just wanted to know what some word meant. Maybe she the nun needed to get laid because she was up tight!
I believe ...in something...,i really confused.I believe in "God".Maybe, i could say i believe in our creator.Kricket,i have one question.i was 12~ ,when i had a cancer,now i'm 15.I have terrible knees pain.Really terrible.I even don't remember what was happening when i was 11.I hadn't done nothing very bad or evil.I can say i was a good person.Not better then the others,not worse.And ,for sure,i will not pay for parents or grandparents.It's simply not honest.I have one silly hope,that when i will be "adult",i will have much luck a good job much money etc.Because,I don't believe ,thet this was just for someones fun.If my illness was the god idea,i dont think we need to respect him.I do not know the God's plans.I still believe that my illness wasn't some kind of revenge.I believe God have a plan.Here took something from me,then he will return twice more.But,i still waiting...Still pain..still lonely...No girlfriend.But i have a very good family.Thanks for that.It's hard...very hard to live...Sorry for my horrible english)
Sort of. I feel like there is something there. I believe in the power of belief and prayer. I believe in spirituality. I think we all have that capacity inside us. I grew up believing; I was a Jehovah's Witness.
But honestly, I got suspicious, angry and disillusioned by Gods terrible actions in the Old Testament, and then with the crappy way women are treated in the New. I also had many questions that no one could or even wanted to answer. After that, no religion I looked into passed the logic and reason test nor even touched my heart. I see the way each religion acts today. And I absolutely hate all these awful political Christian fundamentalists and dominionists that don't seem to understand the separation of church and state, nor care that they're hurting people because they are pushing their religion on to them. And they don't believe in science, logic, or empathy.
That said, if you are spiritual or religious and it makes you a happy, strong, and compassionate person, good on you. Everyone here is this way, and I love that and am grateful for it ☺️.
Yes. Was brought up in Catholicism and still consider myself such although I fell away from it for quite some time due not not believing in their ridiculous doctrine (rules). However the new Pope is helpful.
If I were not to have faith in something, not sure how I would get through days/nights at times.
I have 100% faith that this pain is meant for me to experience. I am finding meaning and learning more about myself with every experience I get through, despite telling myself "I can't".
It's difficult to have faith in something, whether it be the stereotypical God, Jesus, Allah, Buddha, Mother Nature...WHATever it may be. I now consider faith as simply trusting your journey/path. And when you're in the muddy trenches and can't see anything but mud; I admit - it is so very difficult. My own personal experiences and..."meetings" I'll say, fortunately help strengthen my belief.
Yes, Jesus is my Lord, Savior, Provider, Deliverer & Healer! It gets tough sometimes, and these pains & discomfort may make us weary, but we cant faint. Even Jesus went through trials & tribulations. Just like someone mentioned job..God doesn't afflict these things on us, but allow us to go through some things because if we keep the faith, we will come out victorious! We will have a testimony. ..but we must go through and pass the test to have a test-imony. As a Christian have I become weary? Definitely! Angry...yep! Is it hard....oh yes! But I p.u.s.h. (pray until something happens). I will continue to pray for us all! God Bless!
Today the answer is yes but there have been times where I was angry and confused and questioned His existance because my prayers seemed pointless. Trusting in God when you are in so much pain is difficult. But He has a plan for each of us in His way in His time.
I believe in God. And according to Psalms 83:18, his name is Jehovah. His name use to be in the bible over 7,000 times originally but because a long time ago, religious leaders that it was too holy of a name to be uttered by humans. But I don't believe that personally. There are many things that serve as Gods to people, money, statues, things, ect. So there has to be a way to distinguish him alone. I think it would be like us going around and calling each other person without addressing us by our names.
A lot of people have wondered if there is a God, why does he permit wickedness and suffering? There really is an answer for it. You may feel differently. I am not challenging that. But we all have heard that in the beginning God created the earth and all creation and Adam and Eve. The issue really comes down to whether we really believe in a real Satan the Devil. Some people just feel he represents evil. But as it says the Devil, disguised as a serpent persuaded her to partake of the fruit. But it really was important what he said to her. I am telling you from my head not quoting a scripture. But he said is it really so that God said you can eat from every tree of the garden except from that tree, the treeof knowledge of good and bad? He went on to say to her that God know from the moment she eats from it, her eyes are bound to be open and she would be like God have this knowledge? So at that moment Satan basically suggested to Eve that Jehovah God was holding back something very good and desirable from her. And if we believe the Genesis account, we know they lived in a beautiful garden with peace with all the animals, they had an abundance of many foods with many favors. They shouldn't have wanted anything else. But then Satan suggested that she really didn't need God. She could rule herself. She could be like him. Today, everyone wants power.
So this issue came before Jehovah God. Humans questioned whether he had the right to rule over them and suggested that they could do that themselves. They were challenging him. What would he do? Should he wipe them out and start all over or should he let them prove it to themselves like we let our children do sometimes. We let them make mistakes. So he decided to do the ladder.
Later, we came to the faithful man Job. I am sure most of us have heard about him. This really has a lot to do with why we go through so much pain. We read in Job that Satan approached God and God said have you looked at my servant Job? He being a very faithful man. In the process Satan came a few times to God, so I will put out all his request? First he said, the Job served him be caused God was always blessing him and was providing for him in abundance so he said to stretch out his hand against Job and take away his source of income. They didn't use that wording but that is what he wanted to effect. He said if you take that away, he will curse you to your very face. Well that didn't work, so then he had his many children killed who were attending a wedding under a tent. I think it was a storm that came along. But Satan said to Gid on this second trip to him if you do this, he will curse you to your very face. That didn't work. So again he went to God and said if you let me affect his body and basically let me make him sick and miserable, then he will curse you to your very face., And he was very sick. Boils over his body. His wife told him to curse Gid and die. Then he had so called friends who were counselors come and tell him he should ask for forgiveness when like us why have no idea why we are like this. I thought he could have been a punishment. But he wondered what did he do. But if we know the account that did not work.
So that is the issue. Satan has put before mankind a challenge, if God does not give you what you want or need at times, you will most like turn your back on God. Then that is mixed with the original issue with Eve who suggested they did not need him. They could take care of themselves. Because that was put before her before she ate. She took that bite knowing she was challenging God. So when we think it. We have had a pretty long history of many different types of goverment. Some of them becoming great world powers. But in the end, they failed. They fell. They were not able to provide for the needs of all their citizens. They couldn't make food grow in droughts. So people starved at times. They can't heal people so they are like us. It is coming to a point when Jehovah will through his son Jesus who he has appointed as a King, take back the ruling of the earth. And he will fix it.
And just this last thought. In the bible, there are a few scriptures. Some of them say God is Love. Some identify him as a kind God. His is identified as having perfect justice. So with that in mind, let us work out this concept. One, let us pretend we believe this statement, that God gave us cancer. We know that entails a lot of misery and horrible things you have to go through. So that is one example. I am going to use another one. It might offend you. I hope not, it is used to make a point to think about. A 12 year girl lived in a city and on her way home she went down an alleyway. As she went that way, she encountered a pedofile. He rapes her and savagely kills her in an indescribable way. I have used to very horrible examples to make a point that you may believe or not. But again, if we believe in the bible, it says, God is Love, Kind, Justice, and also Merciful. So after they died someone says that God took them. A lot of people think that people have gone through terrible things because God wanted them with them. That sort of sounds selfish. Not very loving to a parent or the people who had to go through the pain. It wasn't merciful to the person who suffered. It definitely wasn't kind. Another thing, is it sort if makes God sound like a hit man. In the case of the girl who encountered the pedophile, he would have had to set up and put everything in position and people in the right direction and place and the equipment they need. Or giving someone cancer would be horrible if he planned it to have you with him.. If that was the case, he has at least several billion up there. Will on insignificant human being really make a difference.
Ok, that is all I had to say. This may appear as a sermon. It isn't meant to be. It was really meant to explain why God allows us to be in pain and why he just doesn't take it away from us right now. But he does give us a promise in the future. It is found in Revelations 21:3,4 , the latter part of that says and God will be with them and he will wipe out every tear from their eyes and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry or pain be anymore, the former things have passed away. Notice it said it was with mankind. So it will happen on this earth.
I hope this was encouraging and that I didn't step on anyone's feet. I am sorry if anyone felt this way. Please know that is not my intention. It was meant to be comforting.
Bravo profiler! You broke down important incidences of the Bible. I too dont want to offend anyone, but this is in answer to the topic question, building on what Profiler and many others have stated already.
I remind myself (when I'm suffering) of battles Job went through, telling myself to always be aware that (and this is my belief) God doesn't always cause things to happen, but He allows it. If I were to blame God for my ailments then Satan would say, "score another one for me!" I focus on God and refuse to blame Him. Instead, I thank Him for allowing me to suffer, because: 1) I know He's with me through it all, 2) He's allowing me to learn about myself, my situation, and how others suffer, teaching me compassion, & 3) He's allowing me to learn more about Him.
Does God ever cause bad things, yes. Throughout the Bible, especially in the Old Testament, God instructed priests to warn people of communities to forsake their sinful ways and return to His ways or He would destroy them; the 10 Commandments. Interestingly, I learned there are greek words for three types of love: "phileo"- frienship, tender affection type of love, "eros"- passionate love for who we fall in love with & marry type of love, & "agape"- the love God had towards His son & the human race; compassion for all, fairness & justice, truth, patience, understanding, encouragement. Many times God warned He would destroy the people, but when they showed remorse and returned to Him, He showed compassion & didn't destroy them. At other times He called the Christian believers (ordering soldiers & Kings) to destroy those who failed to obey His commands and worshipped other idols (as you said, idols can be anything, even God said so; anything desired more than God.)
Satan is real. He's a fallen angel who desired to usurp God and be the one everyone worships. That's why he was cast out of heaven to "rule on earth" as God said. God won't force anyone to follow & believe in Him or His son, Jesus. He gives us free will to choose. And Satan loves it when he can make us doubt God loves us, he does so with negative thoughts. He tried to do so with Job through his wife & friends, but Job refused to turn against God(although he didn't understand why he was suffering). To finish that story, Job was healed and went on to create a new large family and gained more lands & flocks of animals, all because he stayed faithful in God.
Does God hurt & suffer? Of course He does. He let the whole world go dark as Jesus drew His last breath on the cross. In Genesis it says God created us in His image & likeness. If you believe that then you know He laughs, loves, cries, and gets angry, because those are the same behaviors we have. God tells us it's ok to be angry, in a healthy way, but not to let anger consume or rule us because it will change us into ugly acting & hateful ways.
Ecclesiastes 3:1-8 talks about "there is a time for everything", including a time for sickness & healing. God's words stand true. You either believe or you don't; God gives us that choice.
Like Profiler, I'm only trying to expand on what he said & state my beliefs & why I believe. I hope no one is offended, that was not my intention. I am not perfect, I do things that God doesn't like too, but with the Holy Spirit living in me, I know when I'm wrong and feel remorse for my actions or words. I do not and will not judge others because I don't have that right, it belongs to God & Jesus. I just wish everyone could feel the joy, love, and relief I have daily, knowing I am a child of God and He is always with me! 🙌 I thank Him daily, even for my medical issues. I believe Romans 8:28. Thank you God! 🙏
What I liked about all these things discussed is that we can have confidence that there is a God that does care. He has to let this situation play out so that after it is all done it will serve like statue to all humans what we did. That we had questioned his right to rule and it doesn't work. But it allows to know why we are going through what we are. And that he still loves us. The bible describes him as the God of comfort and somewhere else said he gives us power beyond what is normal to face the things we are going through. I have seen that. I have been through the end of my rope. I will need something medically or some other reason because medical wiped me out. And something happened that just seemed unbelievable. Or I have been sick for a long time and I am so discouraged to the point of tears that they can't find out what is wrong. Then I will have a peace come over me and I will meet a new doctor that will provide with the assistance I need after I had been to a few wit no help at all I find those times pretty amazing. But it makes me happy to know that God does not want me to be in pain and that he. Sent his son to show a sample of what he wanted to be done for the sick and injured.
Sometimes (that looks bad ) I believe there is something out here ,but I don't know what or who ,i don't believe it's just a person ,but have believe that we all have Spirits who look after us ,As I would not be here now ( car cash ) as for when I die I hope here is something to look forward too,
But God did not leave us here to suffer pointlessly. Our loving and merciful God has a perfect plan to use that suffering to accomplish His threefold purpose. First, He uses pain and suffering to draw us to Himself so that we will cling to Him. Jesus said, “In the world you shall have tribulation” (John 16:33).
I believe in God and his son Jesus I know that he loves me. I have been Blessed by his grace so many times. He has seen me through some very bad times and healed my body before. I don't believe I could live my life without him in it. I love him and appreciate all he has done for me and my family.
I love God, & Jesus. And I depend on the Holy Spirit's comfort & guidance daily. Without God in my life I would have ended my life years ago. Jesus willingly died on the cross for me. I willingly accept whatever burden I must bare, because I trust God. It's up to Him weather I am healed completely or not.
Romans 8:28 "And we know that God causes everything to work together for the good of those who love God and are called according to His purpose."
Absolutely without a doubt. A TV pastor was reading from Titus this morning on the role we have as Christians, believers, women and men, older to younger generations, etc. At the end he commented, "In the end days the Bible tells us God will send strong delusions, and there will be inability to differentiate between truth & lies, right & wrong." He went on to say he believes we may be in that now. He may be right and he may be wrong. Either way I have no fear. 🙏🌼
We have to understand why some people don't believe in God or blame God for their pain or the wickedness in the world. At 1 Corinthians 11:14,15, it shows that Satan cast himself into an angel of light and makes himself look good. That he has ministers and that they keep disguising themselves into angels of righteousness.There have been so many lies that have been spread about God and they make him look bad and they really hurt him and the way it makes him look. When the bible says that "God is Love" and yet lies are spread that seem to prove otherwise, it may be really hard to believe that.
For instance one lie is that God test people and causes them pain to see if they will worship him still. That would not sound like a God of Love. That sounds like the opposite. How can someone love someone like that. If we knew of a parent who did such a thing today in our world, we would call them abusive. We would go as far as taking that child away from that parent and take away their parental rights. If we are made in God's image and we think that is wrong, why would God be like that. Today we find ourselves in very much the same situation. We are hurting and we suffer from day to day. We are being told that we are being tested by God. But think about it, if we are suffering, God would have to sit up there and choose how to make us suffer. He would have to push the buttons to make us suffer and to what extent. It would be his choice.
Another lie is that when someone dies, it is because God wants that person. I have heard some use this theory when it comes to violent crime. After such a terrible event has happened, some have thought God wanted this person. I have often used this illustration. This may be offensive, I don't mean to be. But imagine a young lady during high school age walking home in a city. She goes behind some city building where she is meant by a man who then rapes her and stabs her many many times. She hangs on for life for many days until she dies. That would be terrible. My point is, if God wanted that person, he would have done a premeditated act. He would have to plan out the whole event. He would have to put into her mind to go down the alley behind the buildings and have a man there. This is not a God of love. A scripture shows these things is contrary to God. At James 1:13, it says ""When under trial, let no one say: "I am being tried by God" For with evil things God cannot be tried nor does he himself try anyone."" So this goes to show that God does not test people with evil things like painful conditions and diseases. But he does allow these situations to test our endurance and faith in him. So he doesn't cause the situation but because of key issues surrounding the question of his soveriegnty, he has allowed this because Satan has stated that we would only worship God out of self interest and would not worship him under hardship. That has proven very true for many. But before we judge ones who don't believe, we have to consider all they have seen and heard. The hurt they have experienced. A God of love would consider this and try to find some way to open their hearts.
At Phillipians 4:13, it says "For all things, I have the strength through the one who gives me power" So this shows we can get that strength from God to endure situtions that are hard. Take care my friends. Hope to not offend. Just to encourage.
1000%. When I started trying to read the bible I had a hard time understanding the way it was written.
I remember when the Left Behind book series came out, I couldn't put them down. I started cross checking the events in that fictitious scenario with the words of the bible. Then 9-11 happened, and my faith soared. GOD is sending us many signs right now even though we might not understand each one.
I was athlete all my life, I could lift up a truck, and now I have trouble tying my shoes some days. But it's not GOD causing that. I praise him now more than ever for all that he has given in life. Just pray with your heart, and ask JESUS to come into your heart. He will!
Amen, God is a God of Love, in him he gives strength to endure all we have to go thru in this life. In 1886 I gave birth to a beautiful little boy,unknown to us and the Dr's he had a heart defect that didn't show up before 24 - 36 hrs after birth. He lived 3 days and then went home to the Lord. I don't belive that God gave us this beautiful gift to only take him away. But just think back to when Jesus hung on the Cross, don't you understand the pain God felt in his heart. Jesus said that he was going to prepare a better place for all of us the only thing we have to do is believe in God. He said that he sent his only begotten Son so that we may have everlasting life.
100% yes. It seems as though the stronger the trials and challenges have come, the stronger my faith has gotten. When this all first started, my first response aloud was "why me lord?" As I have gotten through it, my response has been "yes lord, I'll go." It seems like I really don't have a choice in the matter so wherever he leads, I'll follow.
No I do not believe in god, gods, demons or devils. I know that religion is important to many and have no problem with that. I, however do not accept the fact that because I do not believe it is because of a " fallen angel " whispering sweet nothings in my ear. Too many contradictions and too many interpretations to suit me. I am who I have made myself to be. Not being punished for some perceived crime that I did not commit.
I too do not believe in a god, I believe in a superior being, the grand architect of all and sundry, what others wish to call their deity is of no concern to me. I only ask that others don't tell me what to believe in and stop using people's faith and belief to glorify their lust for blood.(going to war over religion) It may well turn out none of us were right to believe, we may have things all backwards it seems. Recently many scientists have announced the possibility that our perception of physics is so far away from what reality really is, that it may bring about a radical change in our societies across the globe. I for one, knowing what I do, hope that this discovery is wrong, a mistake in a scientists formulae, easily corrected. That's what I hope anyway. Does My grand architect have anything to do with my degeneration, I'm not 100% sure he doesn't! Perhaps I've served my purpose, perhaps this is my time to go, or maybe it's pot luck, I've led a full life travelled the world, been right to the top, and fallen right back down again, not just once, but three times now and this time was going to be my fourth, and it was starting to happen to! I've survived many of life's negative challenges and enjoyed many of its 'top of the world' moments too, so much so that I'm writing a book about my life, and warn you now if I get the time to finish it, it all depends on one phone call from Kings, that some of my experiences will both shock and amaze you, on this I'm sure. I'll post the title of the book for you guys on here when it's done. You may find we are all often very similar to each other. Kindest regards
There is still time for those of you that don't believe. If you really don't care, then read revelations, and look at the events of the last 100 years. Did you know that the bible prophesied the return of Israel. Do you know how much of a miracle that is? Did you know that GOD wrote about all these earthquakes, volcanos, storms, and diseases we are going through right now. If you really don't care- then you have nothing to worry about reading it. We are in the end times right now. GOD states in the bible that this generation ( the generation that witnessed the rebirth of Israel) would not pass without seeing the second coming of Christ. There will be a rapture in the near future where all those who have accepted Christ as their LORD and SAVIOR will return with him in the clouds. This will start the seven year Tribulation. I would not want to be on Earth during this times, but you will still be able to repent your sins, and accept that Christ was born to the Virgin Mary, lived and died on this Earth, was resurrected by GOD, and promised to return for all those who believe in him.
Did you know that nothing in the bible has been proven false? Infact, everything prophesy, event that has happen has proof that it did. If you really don't believe, then it should be no big deal to look into a little.
Do we not all believe in the same Deity, be it God, Mohammed, the grand architect. The only difference we have to each other in reality is our culture. We are all of us born of this planet, and in this reality we will all die on this planet, in another reality we may not, that's to say if there is indeed another reality. We as a species of amazing people, all over this world shouldn't be killing one another in the name of their deity, or because their enemy doesn't believe in exactly the same translation of a holy book. Why can we all not stop for a second, and turn to the next man or woman and say 'Hi, my name is Peter Stone and I'm fed up of people dying. Our own deities, regardless of name, made all of the universe, and out of the billions of stars out there created our paradise in a universe of chaos. So whilst I am in constant pain, which is getting worse day by day, I choose to believe in what I like for the possibly short time I have left. Kindest regards @apprentice_life
I'm very much an atheist, but that's just me. I love art though, and for some people their belief in a greater being can be inspirational, at least for art. At the same time, I also believe that every person should have the right to believe whatever they want, and have enjoyed hearing about how religion/spiritualism/belief has made their life better or given them hope. I just can't believe in self-fulfilling prophecies, or being judged by an outer all-powerful being. I will be judged by every person I meet, and by myself. That is good enough, I really don't need any more judgement in my life.
I really can understand why people don't believe in God. I think, instead of judging people for them not, we need to understand their point of view. So many lies have been done in the name of God. Churches have backed wars for nations to fight other nations. The terrorism we experience today is done today is done in the name of religion. So people don't realize that God doesn't back these religions that support such things. Being a God of Love, He is also a God of Peace. It says at Psalms 37:11, "But the meek will possess the earth. And they will find his exquisite delight in the abundance of peace."
It is really wrong for us to think we know who will be saved and who won't. God knows everyone's situation and what pain has caused ones to no look to him. He is given us free will. He doesn't decide our destiny. He doesn't give us the right to judge others even though we tend to do it.
He gives everyone on the earth, the bible. It is printed in practically every language. At John 4:24, "it says, God is a spirit, and those worshipping Him must worship with spirit and truth. Everyone thinks it is alright to just believe. It is good to believe. That is a good start. But we need a foundation. That would be his word, the bible. It is what gives truth. Instead of just listening to our ministers, we need to read our bibles and make sure that what is being taught to us is the truth about God. Many people have followed their religions without knowing what they stood for and they have led them into bloodless battles, lies about God, wrong doctrines. But searching our own bibles make sure that we have picked a religion that lines up with truth and we don't let anyone tell us truth is. We could be guided but we should never allow ourselves to be told. It is just a thought. Best wishes to all of you. I hope all of you that are having the best day you can have.
Ferretbandit, You are so very wise at such a young age. I am in agreement with you, and with iammertle.
I am not sure what to call my beliefs, as they are a conglomerate of different philosophies. My moral compass follows common sense, empathy, and compassion. Live and let live unless you are hurting someone else. I do not believe that one religion has the absolute Truth. Every religion thinks they are the right one. There are too many different religions in the world (and in past history) to believe that any one is the absolute truth. Even the bible was put together by politicians, who selected what they liked, and threw out what they didn't. Those lost scriptures are providing greater insight into Christianity. Almost all religions and philosophies (except Scientology. Sorry) have merit and value.
If there is a god, architect, benign creator, I would never be arrogant enough to presume to speak for him, or to force others to conform to my personal beliefs. Any one of us could be wrong, and it is not my place.
I believe God isn't making me sick either. I feel some of my medical problems are the end result of misguided &/or bad decisions by myself and doctors. Other issues have simply happened as a result of life & genetic predisposition & aging. God is loving & compassionate. It is because of my faithful trust & belief in who He is, that I get through every day, one day at a time. And I do my best not to worry about my tomorrow's. 🙏🌼
Addendum: I ask because I have read the bible, and the God in the first half is totally different then the one in the second half. My prior religious experienc e tried to teach that our God was both, but couldn't explain to me why he was so different.
Amie, I hope I can explain without confusing anyone. At 53 I've read and reread the Bible so many times I can't count. But each time it seems I see something different, more clarifying at times. The Old Testament for years seemed like a foreign language, I always seemed to get lost. Then in the last 3-4 years I began to really see verses that disturbed me and upset me. God got angry and did punish people, tribes, whole nations for failure to acknowledge Him & follow His laws, of for worshipping other deities and things, for behavior that went against the 10 Commandments. It seemed He was causing pain, death, wars on purpose. Then as I reread it I began to see it as if He, the parent, in trying to guide and instill moral values and faith in His children, also warned them that there would be consequences for misbehavior. He only wanted what was best for all His children, just as all parents do anywhere. It wasn't that He took pleasure in punishment, because He didn't (not does any parent who has to punish a child severely). It is heartbreaking.
At first it was hard to accept that He is the same God of the New Testament. Then I began to see with the entrance of Jesus, our Saviour, God sat back and let the children grow up to be independent, to choose for themselves, just as most parents do. Jesus came and trained disciples who would further educate others after Jesus was crucified, and the Bible helps educate even more. The New Testament also gave more rules to teach and follow... And the greatest being love, brotherly/sisterly love for all mankind. Instead of everyone continuously having to attone for sins (actions that went against Gods/Jesus's teachings) with personal sacrifices of lambs and goats and cattle, over and over again, Jesus died on the cross, once for all sins for each and every person. The suffering Jesus went through was because of each soon of all the world, which are many and caused great unbearable suffering for Gods son. God in the New Testament site back and waits, suffering no other could tolerate as long. And God wept. God has in the New Testament given us His words to read for ourselves and choose how we want to live, whether to accept and believe, or discard. He doesn't force anyone. What amazes me most is that there are so many basic moral values and guidelines for living to be caring and loving to all, in both Testaments.
I'm not sure if I explained that very well or answered your question good enough. I simply see God as the parent of young children in the Old Testament and a parent cutting the apron strings in the New Testament. 🙏🌼
I certainly do. God has a plan for me and i would of ended my life a long time ago if I didn't believe in him. I believe Jesus is my Saviour and as much pain that I'm in, he bore that much more to save us. I was brought up a Catholic but when I was about 16 I stopped going to church as I was bored, but when I had an 2 accidents within 6 weeks of each other I turned back to the church. That was back in 1986. 7 years ago I had a really bad accident and developed chronic pain and was diagnosed with CRPS PTSD amongst other things and started Ketamine treatment. I believe God touched me then and it really confirmed my belief in him. Our suffering is nothing compared to the suffering he has, with all the evil going on in this world
Paincrusher, You say there is a correct god to believe in, but why do you believe? How does faith make your life better?
I don't care about what anyone's beliefs are, I care about how they treat humans and why they have faith. For example, I have 2 close friends who I've discussed religion with.
One has been comforted by the thought of a higher being. She was teased endlessly because of ADD and "anger issues" when people messed with her. Her faith gave her hope. Her faith is why she had not committed suicide.
My other friend has a mom who's extremely restrictive about hanging out with friends. Her church was her only social life. Her dad has attempted to murder her family members, and her belief has helped her cope with the possibility that her dad might try to hurt her.
I enjoy the writings of Kahlil Gibran, a prophet who was thrown from his home country. His writings are impressive. They speak of life and death. He describes how women are capable of great things. He mourns his home, people who he loves but also cannot understand.
His writings are beautiful, and ring with honesty. My favorite story of his is titled The City of the Dead and describes the funeral of a poor man and a rich man.
I do not need a heaven because even if there is another life, I'm still living right here, right now.
So, why do you have faith? Why do you care? I am actually very interested.
I will not be converted, but I've seen faith help many people. I've also watched it bring about violence, or ruin someone's life.
I know there is a higher being. We all have different names for the same being. I haven't seen a discussion on this site where there was a single upset word. Why would you post a question like this? Religious questions don't have a place here. Everyone has their beliefs and are entitled to them. All you had to do was read the previous posts to know that these wonderful people believe in God. I'm sorry you posted this. I joined this community to have support for my pain and other issues. I didn't join for a religious discussion. I may have to delete this app altogether now and try to find another one. If you wanted a religious discussion you should find a place besides here to do it. This is only my opinion, and no one needs to respond to this.
A deity, no. This is it. I get why people need to cling to promises but the reality is we only experience now and since trying to live now I've coped a whole lot better. If god is another word for interconnectedness then my answer is yes. We arise from it, we are it, there is no other.
I believe in a higher power and a creator. I am more spiritual than "religious".
I was brought up under two different religions not sure I believed either, both just seemed interested in the amount of money they could get.
Honestly I think i have been jaded by those who tell you how Christian they are while they screw you over. Unfortunately that seems to happen a lot. One time costing us over 5,000 in attorney fees because our great Christian neighbors put thier fence 3 feet onto our property and we couldn't get equipment in our back yard to fix the drainage problem and our house almost flooded.
Yes, I am Christian and I have always believed I have choice, my choices reflect my inner self and how I wish to be treated. Also, I believe that my trials are not just for me but for each person my life touches. So I add in my prayers is for others to forgive my shortcomings. I couldn't have survived all I have gone through in my life if God was not in it and I would feel like I would be bitter, who needs a bitter person in their life?
I believe in God but I also believe in Mother Gaia and the power of the universe. The universe presents us with opportunities, Mother Gaia keeps all life on balance, and God sends us miracles every so often so we have something to keep living for. I know it seems weird to believe in such different religious beliefs, but I can no longer find just one answer as to why the world is the way it is, and why I am the way I am. Once this illness took over my life, I feel like everyone who doesn't have fibro suddenly sees me as their "inspiration" or I'm here for pity. Like "oh look at how hard her life has been, and how she keeps going" or "be thankful YOU don't have what she does". My beliefs are what are keeping me sane in an insane world.
Cearea, I hope you won't leave the community. I can't say why the question was posted. But I can say that I answered it as a way of stating my faith is a very important part of my life, even before I became ill. I feel like the question was posted to see if our faith is important to our ability to cope. That's just my opinion, but many voiced their beliefs in various posts that it's important to their coping. Please reconsider and stay in this community. You would surely be missed by many. 🙏🌼
FlappysLady81, Hi!I'm posting here very rare,but I've posted this question to know how illness is affecting peoples faith.I respect every G-d and seeing people not blaming their Gods for illnesses they have...it's truly remarkable.Talking about me,i believe in G-d,but i don't believe in any religion.My English is bad,i know,but hope you understand what i meant.Also,this question is very popular and i'm glad to see people are telling about their believings and discussing about them.Of course,i realized,that religion is one of the most difficult question im our time.But discussion is the key to stop hating people only because of their faith.
Yes. I have been through hell and back, but my faith has remained with me. And, because of that, I've found that even when things are tight, or seem hopeless, He gets me through. There may not always be abundance, but there is always enough. Sometimes just barely, and sometimes it's through the grace and help of others, but there's always enough. However, I never judge another on their own faith, that is between them and God.
MichaelR, thanks for clarifying why you asked. I hope Cearea will decide to stay. For me personally, my faith is in God & is very strong; it's what has pulled me through every trial in my life. Wishing everyone a blessed day with tolerable to lose pain! 🙂🙏🌼
yes I do. He has always looked over me kept me safe. he has got me thru alot of things especially thru the things I have been thru last few day. He help me make hard decision that I had mix feeling of then now Im much better.
No, I do not believe. People should give the credit to themselves for getting through the tough days, not some invisible man in the sky. All of us that suffer with pain and make it through the bad days are incredible people and make it by using our own strength and determination. Why pass that credit on?
Yes I do. There was a time that I didn't. I was actually brought up in church and saw and went through a lot of things that I didn't understand. Naturally, that made me question God's existence. When my mom died though...that was my crossroads. My mom was a minister and a mighty woman of God and she had cancer. I fasted and prayed for her healing and nothing. She fought until the very end. Praising our Lord with what little strength she had, never denying Him. After she died I was so angry with God that I cursed Him. I felt so betrayed. Why didn't He heal her? She was His faithful servant her whole life? I understand now that she is completely healed and whole again. I've learned that death is a part of life and it was time for my mom to go home. But the most valuable lesson I've learned was from my mom. No matter what she faced, no matter how much pain she was in, or how sick she felt, she never wavered in her faith. Because of her and the faith she instilled in me...that's how I keep going when I feel I can't. If she could do it, so can I!
Yes I believe in God. I couldn't make it without His grace and mercy, and I certainly couldn't survive these illnesses without His strength.
My road is certainly bumpy, crooked, and filled with jumbo sized craters, but I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. 1st Corinthians 15:58 says "Be ye steadfast and unmovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, for as much as you know, that your labor is not in vain in the Lord."
I praise Him, I trust Him, and I will continue to do so forever.
YES!!!! I'm a passionate follower of Jesus Christ!!!! I wouldn't want to even think of facing a single minute without Him!!!! He loves everyone!!!! He came to save us not condemn us!!! All you have to do is sincerely ask Him to be your Lord and Savior, trust and believe!!!!
I believe in a Higher Power That I simply call LOVE. As for my illnesses, I believe these bodies are simply vessels that age sicken and die in a variety of ways. I try to nurture my body, but more importantly, my spirit, as I believe it will long outlive this clay vessel. I’m not religious, but I respect those who are. I go to church and I enjoy it when I do. Mo
Also,I think this is a great question. It’s totally relevant, especially for those of us who have lost all hope. Thanks for asking. I’m striving for honesty without controversy, but not all people have that skill, so I must be patient and move forward from conflict. Anyway, conflict hurts! So I skip the posts that bother me and focus on whom I can help instead.
I think this is a question that some people who are suffering ask themselves. For some it is hard to understand how a loving God will allow such pain in their lives. Some pray for healing and when that does not happen they wonder why God isn't answering their prayers. Or if it seems He is answering others prayers but not yours. Mature adults can ask this question and have a conversation without getting upset. Respecting the fact everyone is entitled to their opinion and the answer is between the individual and God anyway.
Absolutely. I believe God doesn’t cause our pain, sin entering the world hasn’t helped our plight, but God can use bad to further good. My faith has only become stronger through this pain. I don’t feel he hasn’t answered my prayers for healing, but he has given me strength to cope. He has helped me to change on the inside and given me the promise that one day we won’t feel pain, sadness, or frustration.
No. And I envy all of you who do. I wish I could have faith that there was a reason behind my pain or that there will eventually be some kind of divine intervention that will heal me. I just don’t believe either of those things. My body is broken and science is failing me. I don’t have much faith in anything today.
sa415: Soo sad you don't believe. God loves you. He is not mad, or punishing you. Not sure what happen to cause the pain. For an example, I had people/even strangers tell me God was punishing my parents through me. Craziness!!! My accident was caused by one person, the lady who hit me, period!! Had a second accident 2 years ago, which made my RSD worse and caused new problems and I was like; Damn!! Again!! Hit from behind. Upset for months, while almost a year until I meet this Dr. who had this machine who helped me walk. Went from being in the bed all day 5/6 days on my goods days to the complete opposite. All I can say a miracle from God. Did I want this second accident? No!! But if I didn't, I wouldn't have looked for a diff. doctor. Then by another miracle a found THIS doctor, by just walking in. No one has helped my back, and it was one thing that has stopped me from getting out of the bed for over 16+ years. I'm saying/typing all this, because my heart was hurting for you to hear that you don't have God, Jesus, etc. in your life. I would have not make it through this crazy, wild, pain if I didn't and I want you to have the love of him too. Won't happen over night, but just know he loves you. If you need more help/advice. I'm always here. Just let me know.
Yes I do. However. My faith didn't come easily to me. I was brought up to be a Christian. That's the easy part...what it took for me to have real faith, absolute faith was trial. Over again we go through things, some things worse than others and for some people they have worse atrocities than others but for me, I have seen the proof of God in the results of adversity. Not Disney happy ending stuff...but in growth and how trials not only result in changes for us but in changes in others our suffering affects. I came out of an abusive marriage...no win win there right? However... When things were at their worst, when I struggled to put food in the table or worried about making my house payment, one of two things happened...either, something would come up, a second job offer or $5 found I a old coat...or my direction would change and I would be put on a new path and as things changed, I changed and so did my faith. I think there is something good in all adversity. It's having faith that God knows the plan, and putting it in his hands. I still struggle with not trying to control everything...but faith means knowing that I don't have to be perfect all of the time... because we are all weak and we are all given grace by God.
I do. Many days I feel so weak, but others I know I am strong. I know I am stronger than others around me, because I handle this pain on a daily basis. I believe this is God’s way of showing that if I can handle this, I can handle anything.