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Facet Injections (Questions)

Jun 09, 2015 7:19 PM

I just had three facet injections yesterday, T1, T2, T3. I'm concerned because the doc had said T3 and T4. All were done on the left. I'm still quite sore, existing on Norco. The pain is directly centered above the bra line and my shoulder blades. I was also approved for target injections. But, that never happened. I also have fibromyalgia.

So, how long before it works? How long before I can put pressure on my back (my hair or the weight of the material from my night gown, etc)? How long before I realize they didn't do it right? How long will it work?

I thought I would be followed in a month, but the new doc reduced my meds and doesn't see me again until August. I was so frustrated, I immediately asked for a new one. Do I even have need to worry?

Jun 10, 2015 4:48 AM

Sorry ur in pain hunny 😕.
I'm waiting for my facet joint injections too and so many stories I've read reguards to these don't look very promising unfortunately but we're all different so fingers crossed yours work and mine too!
I also have fibromyalgia but my back issues are by far more painful than the fibromyalgia but that's just my opinion. Hugs x

Jun 10, 2015 7:34 AM

Well, Ill keep you posted; although I realize that everyone is unique in how they handle these things. For this very reason, I wish more people would respond to these posts. Unfortunately, Day 2 post-injection... doesn't look positive. I awoke to horid pain, and couldn't stay in bed. I'm finding it difficult to type, as the movements of my arms are causing pain to shoot to my back. IT SUCKS!

Jun 10, 2015 7:57 AM

Moonrabitzmom, I'm sorry you're hurting so badly. I had the facet injx at the T11-12 area. It did hurt much worse than the usual injx (ESI's). I want to say it was 4-5 days before the injx pain let up. I kept using ice packs because he said it would swell internally and cause more pain. After about two weeks I began to notice a big difference in the pore injx and post injx pain, it was getting better. I don't have long hair and my gown didn't bother me after the days. I'll be praying for you. The first 1-2 weeks is hardest to get through. (((Hugs))) 🌻🙏🌼

Jun 11, 2015 4:14 PM

Hi hunny how's it going now? Any better since the injections?
I really don't know what to do reguards to mine as I am due the 4wks before my holidays and worried incase I'm bad 😕 don't kniw Wether to just not have them until after my holidays or not as won't be bothered about them then! X

Jun 11, 2015 10:22 PM

I'm noticing some intermittent let up, but not a whole lot. I still think it might be too soon to tell. I have shot up out of bed the last two mornings from searing pain. Getting out of bed seems to help along with pain meds (Norco). I noticed a significant difference when I went to PT. I was able to do more than before. However, I was terribly achy afterwards. I couldn't get home soon enough. Mrsflossy, I'd wait until after the holidays if you could. But, then again, if you're in as much pain as I was going into the procedure (10 ++), the sooner the better.

Jun 12, 2015 5:03 AM

That's the problem! I'm due my holidays 4wks later after injections! My pain is probably at 8 daily lucky to be anything less tbh! I'm very stubborn and won't stay in bed ect! I can't walk without crutches anymore 😕 I use at least one in the house but usually 2 if needed! Wheelchair if out! Really need a holiday but scared incase I'm bad 😕. I can't get insurance yet either because of the issues and ongoing treatment I'm due! So have o wait till after the injections then pay for it!. Arghhh don't know what to do. I'm UK and was rather hot yesterday so say outside just had to get up and down as can't stay in same position! The heat did make me have little less pain tbh but night I was back to being pain like usual. Hope ya better soon hunny x

Jun 12, 2015 10:04 AM

When my chronic pain began in 2010 I was spending a lot of my free time sitting or laying in bed. I began to get more pain. My hubby bought me a recliner-rocker and I started using the bed less, and the pain in my mid-low back improved. 🙏🌼

Jun 13, 2015 9:31 AM

Recliner had helped me as well. I've not slept in a Bed in about 8 years. Sometimes I look at the bed and cry cause I just want to curl up and sleep like I used to. Sometimes I'll lay down on my back for about 10-15 minutes and the can't lay there any more.

Jun 13, 2015 3:54 PM

Awww, Always, that's sad. We've bought more mattresses than I can remember. There years ago was bought some type of memory foam over spring coils mattress and I've never slept so good. Most memory foams are hard to get out of our roll over, but this one doesn't do that. I think it's because of the coils in it. I wish I could remember the name of it. We have our daughter an older policy top & heavy when mattress (guest room) & replaced it with a full mattress like ours. So guests can have a good sleep to.

Jun 15, 2015 11:07 AM

Update! I've bee virtually pain free since yesterday morning. However, after spending the night with muscle cramping all over my body (even falling out of bed), I awoke to a 102 temp, headache and difficulty breathing. I don't know if it's related to the injections or not. It's been exactly one week. Otherwise, I really don't feel sick. Strange!

Jun 15, 2015 1:49 PM

I'm glad you're feeling less pain Moonrabitzmom. Do you allergies or asthma? I have both and sometimes when they flare up I either run fever or drop below norm with chills. And there are several bugs going around. Hope it passes soon! 🙏🌼

Jun 18, 2015 11:39 AM

I'm glad to report several days pain free! (You know there's a big fat "BUT" coming, and there is...)

BUT, I've been informed that this renewed freedom is only short-lived and self-limiting, only to last until the end of the week. WTF!!!

I return on the 10th to see what comes next. The doc said another set of injections followed by an ablation procedure.

Geesh!

Jun 18, 2015 12:32 PM

Injections make you more prone to catchig an infection. I ended up with a kidney infection after I had some I would let your dr know in case they want to start you on an antibiotic since your body will be less strong infighting at this time. Glad the pain is gone! I will be getting more injections in November. Hoping they go well

Jun 18, 2015 1:27 PM

Steroid in any form lowers our resistance. Take Mydogmasksmypain's advice on that. For me the injx don't bother me as much as the pills though. The pack you are suppose to taper down...7,6,5,4,3,2,1... I have to spread it out over 10-14 days. My doc said it I didn't I couldn't take it, because of how it affects my heart rate.

Jun 21, 2015 5:47 PM

They told me, I would be in pain again by the end of the week. But, so far so good. I'm still pain free, well sort of. I tried to take a walk with my son the other night, and didn't get far. I baked this morning, but it wasn't long before I needed to sit down. As long as I pay attention to the signals, I'm going to do whatever I can to stretch this out as long as possible.

Jun 21, 2015 6:50 PM

Moonrabbitzmom that's wonderful. Just keep a eye on your signals. I can't do that I always over do it ,then wind up in bed for 2-3 days.

Jun 22, 2015 3:59 AM

Weezie, I'm much like you. However, I learned in Pain Mgmt class to do more when I feel like doing less and less when I want to do more. It takes a little work, but it does work. However, I still find myself overdoing it.

Jun 22, 2015 4:10 PM

I had them done every 3 months for a year and I did not see much of a difference.

Jun 22, 2015 9:47 PM

Moonrabbitzmom It is worth it. I hope that you continue to be able to streach it out. I don't think I will ever learn because I get barely started doing something and my back is screaming stop but I want to finish so I keep going.

Jun 23, 2015 3:00 AM

How's it going ? I'm really not sure if I want to risk trying mine 4wks before I fly really worried incase I'm in too much pain! Not bothered about having them just worried with it being so close to my holidays bit on the other hand it could make me enjoy my holiday better if they help me. Worth the risk. X

Jun 23, 2015 5:17 AM

I'm about one month since I had mine, not sure whether it hurts more now or before to be honest. I've been told it may take up to two months before all nerve ending dies....so those that are half disabled can cause you a lot of pain. Most pain I'm having when lying flat on my back.

Post op after two weeks my nerve in my buttocks hurts the most right down to the left leg. Hurts when I walked or sit even. But that pain slowly subsided. Maybe I'm on a bad day right now cause my legs feel like jello right now.

Jun 23, 2015 8:43 AM

MrsFlossy - It is soooooooooooo worth the risk. However, I would do some research on the physician prior to having the procedure. And, ask if they're going to use the meds you need to get through the time you need. I was told (and read) that the injections are a diagnostic procedure only. Any pain relief is purely subsequential, an extra added benefit. Some doctors only use the numbing medicine to see where the pain is coming from; while others (if you're lucky) will give a small dose of steroids if they notice how much inflammation is present or feel sorry for you going in. My doctor didn't plan on giving the steroid (I was told by a member of his staff later). He gave me a small dose because of my pain level on the day of the procedure. So, I was one of the lucky ones. However, here I am 15 days out, and still feeling some relief; although, I am beginning to feel the pain once more. I was in bed all day yesterday, and will more than likely spend the day here again today, hiding from the heat. I was scheduled for my last PT session last Friday but cancelled. I was too afraid of upsetting the balance. They understood. I begin PT again next week.

Octobot, I read that it can take at least a month for the nerves to die out. And, was told that it will only last between 6 months to a year. Then, they do a repeat. They might consider a spinal stimulator or pain pump if it begins again too soon.

My formal goal is to come off of my pain meds; so I have a detailed long-term plan written in my chart. Demand that! You have the right to call the shots! It's your body!

Jun 23, 2015 10:58 AM

I've always got the steroid mixed in. It works 75-90%, varying. 🙏🌼

Jul 01, 2015 3:11 AM

I can't look at who or what she's done before hunny as I'm UK and there's not that kind of thing available to look into!
really want to try them but nerves are with being so close to my holidays that's all. X

Jul 01, 2015 10:23 PM

Hi I'm new here. I'm very familiar with injections and I just wanted to put a few things out there
All mine are done Under IV sedation I'm putting it out there because not a lot of doctors do it and I'm thinking more people should ask for it it really cuts down on the pain. Also my anesthesiologist gives a shot of fentinal before you wake up this cut your painted half for the first 24 hours.

Anyway the shots can heard from anywhere from three days up to one week before they actually kick in. Unfortunately

Jul 01, 2015 10:43 PM

Welcome Ilovemyservicedogs! I've had the same type of ESIs, with sedation. Some work immediately and others a little longer. I've only had one that worsened and the doc did the second one three weeks later, which worked perfect. I couldn't do them without the sedation! Have a blessed night of rest. 🙏🌼

Jul 01, 2015 11:09 PM

Oh I wanted to say one thing that helps me a lot is soaking in a big bathtub with Epson salt and sometimes you can get it with lavender and eucalyptus I found that a lot of times the pain just kind of vanishes literally. You might want to give it a try it's a cheap and you got nothing to lose. I also love tiger balm.

Another thing is my doctor makes a custom paint grade that working really really well on my nerve pain it's made from lidocaine, like the real Robaxin a bunch of muscle relaxers gabapentin . What I will do is get a bottle and read out the recipe and you could ask your doctor to order it it has to be compounded fortunately it's not covered by Medicare pharmacies around here charge about $120 to make it but it's well worth it.

Jul 01, 2015 11:11 PM

Thanks falppay lady I know what you mean I did it the first time awake thought I was going to jump straight off the table I just don't know how people do it awake and I don't know why most doctors will not do anesthesia around here there's maybe two at the most

Jul 02, 2015 12:24 PM

Thanks for that. Mine will also be done with IV sedation. Too big a chicken to have them done awake. Sorry, not ESI but facet joints I think at L1-L3 on both sides. Hope to have it done within the next 2 weeks or so.

Jul 03, 2015 7:59 AM

I d9nt have the choice to have it done being asleep unfortunately. X

Jul 04, 2015 9:32 PM

I had mine done under IV sedation, as well. The doctor also administered Fentanyl before I awoke. It took 5 days before I was pain free. It lasted for just over a week. I see the doctor again on the 10th. I'm in so much pain. I can't wait for the next set.

Jul 05, 2015 1:50 AM

Now this is what I'm worried about as I fly 4wks after mine and 90% of people I have spoken to have said there in agony for a wk after injections them only better for 2wks then back to being in lots of pain again 😕
so sorry to hear that you in lots of pain again x

Jul 05, 2015 10:42 AM

MrsFlossy, I think it's the invasion of the needle and meds injected, that are foreign to the body, makes the area feel more pain to start with. The first facet injx didn't give me relief for nearly a week and lasted only 2-3 weeks. But the following ijnx worked fine, after the first three days. I was told to ice the area for 48 hours, to reduce pain & swelling. I hope & pray you will have better results than you anticipate. What you think in your mind can affect the outcome, so try and think positive, that you may have some pain initially, but it will bring good results. 🙏🌼

Jul 06, 2015 2:20 AM

Yeah ano hunny I am trying to think positive and that's why I'm Gona get them done before my holidays as I was originally going to have them done after I came back. I just hope and pray they last a while or even the duration of my holidays would be nice ☺. Thanks for reply hunny x

Jul 06, 2015 10:58 AM

Thanks hope ur having a painless day as possible 😊 x

Jul 06, 2015 12:49 PM

Today is a good day for me. Thanks! 🙏🌼

Jul 07, 2015 8:16 AM

It must be remembered that this is a diagnostic procedure. Any pain relief is merely a side effect, telling them that is where the pain is from. Now, they can move on with actual treatment with this info in hand.

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