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How can we cope with suicide threats or suicidal ideation?

Apr 19, 2016 10:44 PM

Encourage the person to to talk about themselves & what sequence of events in their lives has led to consider suicide. By just stating they are thinking of the action we know they are in a pattern of mental pain. Is there disease dx or chronic body pain? Can they wait for a day & see if they feel different by morning. Do they have family, children or are they a child themselves? If they are, perhaps someone closer to their age could connect. So much of suicide prevention lies in making connection. The community can make a heroic effort to connect.

Apr 19, 2016 10:57 PM

Something else... We talk of being Pain Warriors, and it is true we are each day we wake up we are making a choice To be a Warrior for another day, to be courageous & fight the pain battle For ourself & those who love us. We can try to initiate a new Warrior in a troubled mind.

Apr 20, 2016 1:10 AM

You can not care more about someone's journey or healing than they do.

You just never know if they are serious or attention seeking. If you know them you have an idea what is normal behavior and what isn't.

Unfortunately you can't force help on someone who doesn't want it and regardless if it is serious or attention seeking they need professional help.

Apr 20, 2016 1:27 AM

The only truth is for life to be better, not over. Do they have a plan? Know what to do if the answer is yes? They have come this far...how have they survived this long? Do they have a safety plan when things become unbearable? What about compassion fatigue? It is very draining to provide unwanted support so for the helpful folks look after yourselves too. Not everyone can be saved and not everyone wants to be. My hope is that those that need help go get it. It's not a reflection on you as a person, it shows that you care enough about yourself to face up to what is happening in your life and make positive changes for your well being πŸ‘

Apr 20, 2016 2:39 AM

My daughter made a half-ass attempt at killing herself last week, she took a handful of Adderall, which she just vomited. This was a call for help, which we got her a psychiatrist now and she will work with a counselor. I think she inherite my screwed up genome. The sad part of this is, she is my safety net, she is why I choose to stay alive. So I now have a broken heart and chronic pain and no joy or happiness. I want to die, but do not let Dr. DEATH win. I couldn't imagine the pain it would cause my family.

Apr 20, 2016 6:54 AM

Newty said it best in her last statement, "She couldn't imagine the pain it would cause on her family"

Many people who commit suicide don't think of what happens to thier family, thier pain and suffering is like no other loss because they would be constantly thinking "why didn't I see the signs and why why didn't " or they would be thinking " What did I do wrong to make then go this far " and million more" why's" ,

I think getting them professional help is the best. I was put in a rough spot once with a girl who rode the Church bus I was captain of... She was in a foster home ... A good one but her deal was if she, that she was going to find her mom and if she couldn't find her mom she was to kill herself because her dad had abused her and her mom let it happen. Well she called me up one night and said come get her so I could help her kill herself?! .. I was shaking and heartbroken that she would even think about this and have me help her do it!? So I called the youth minister who closer to where she was and explained what was going on (I lived 45 mins away) told him I would make the call to the cop's to come get her so she could get the help she needed, but I didn't want her to be alone, he agreed so he and his wife went to where she was talked and prayed with her until the cops came and even let me know where they were taking her so we all followed up with her, of course she she didn't want to see me for a while after I had did that but it was the hardest thing I had to do but she got the help she needed and that is all that mattered to me. I love all my bus kids and when hurts I hurt, when I make a trip down home I always see my bus kids and I am happy to report that the girl I was talking about above is still going to church and is thankful now for the help she received. If you want to be a hero, have them get the right help. They will HATE you for it but one day they we come back around, just be there for them even though they may not want you around at that moment, still just be there for them regardless of they feel towards you... Because their will come a point they will forgive you and they will need thier friend again.

Sorry for the long post but this subject is one I've faced many times with my brother and I even LOST several to it... So think about what you are doing to your families and friends, you may think they are better off without you but they are NOT! They care deeply! They may not understand how to deal with people who have Chronic Pain and it it them to see us in pain daily and them not being able to do anything to make it better.

Apr 20, 2016 9:42 AM

I was in a really bad place and could not see any glimpse of light. The plan I had arranged was beyond rock solid we will leave it at that. My amazing fiancΓ© made it perfectly clear that he was calling my daughter.... My daughter was the key for me. When I faced her in my beyond disturbing mental state she hugged me and said, "Mom, I would be forever devastated. How could you do that to me? Straightened me right out. I immediately went to seek therapy. I can admit that my pain was not controlled properly and I was out of control feeling hopeless. As a parent I believe no one has the right to be so selfish and self centered to do this to your child. I feel that if you have children you forever forfeit that (suicide) option. A hero is not the person that is brave. A hero is the person that is scared shit less that does the right thing. We are all going to have dark days but there is help if we make the choice. Fight on my fellow pain warriors.

Apr 20, 2016 10:37 AM

If I'm feeling horrible enough to want to die, I always think of everyone I know and love, and of the deaths of several students at my middle school. I remember that I want to see my cousins grow up, I don't want to cause pain. I usually manage to have someone stay by my side. Usually, something traumatic happens and I want to just try to run in front of a car, but instead wait and cry, and lean on whoever is with me.

Apr 20, 2016 11:27 AM

My uncle took his life. He had a severe stroke when he was 50 lost the use of his right side. He had to be resuscitated a couple of times so we believe he suffered brain damage. My mum his sister found him. She suffered severe depression. But is ok now and we understand and forgive him and know he is no longer suffering. I myself have had bad thoughts especially when the pain is so bad. At the moment I am feeling down but that is due to losing my dad who was my best friend. Yep I was a daddies girl lol.

Apr 20, 2016 11:33 AM

We can not determine if a person is serious or not from reading their post. It is better to error on the side of caution and assume they are serious and will follow through with the threat. So getting any information possible to be able to verify their location and contact number. Providing Suicide Prevention Hotline number to them. ..... I am sorry I am in a lot of pain and having a difficult time completing this post... Main point take them seriously and get them help ...if you aren't skilled in dealing with someone suicidial don't ignore them refer them to someone who is. You maybe saving their life. Most importantly don't taunt them. Main point if they have a plan they most certainly are serious. Peace & Blessings !

Apr 20, 2016 11:43 AM

Moparmom I am sorry you are feeling so badly. Having felt suicidal myself, I take all threats seriously because you never know. I know there have been folks here before that were at the end of their rope. I always reach out and try to get them to see why living is the better choice. Being in pain is never easy even on a good one. The way I try to look at it is that between moments of disparity and pain, there are many blessings that occur and if you take the time to take a step back and think of it, you'll find them. I try every day to find joy in something and if I'm honest I have to say that sometimes I can't find anything. Fortunately it's few and far between. I will always reach out to someone suffering, if I can make them smile or make their day better, it makes me feel better. It's forums like this that make you feel not so alone. Besides, I am always mindful of the people who love me and what it would do to them if I were gone. {{{Hugs}}}πŸ’•πŸŒ»πŸ™πŸ»

Apr 20, 2016 7:01 PM

97 views/13 responses... Wow, this is a tremendously important topic.
LMB, Thank you for your previous very personal response to the topic. I , wholeheartedly, agree I will never abandon my son or grandson like that. Thank you everyone who posted a reply.

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