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Lower Back pain with leg pain

Jan 30, 2016 2:00 PM

I have been dealing with my lower back pain for more than a year now. I was rear ended twice 6 months apart. I go to physio and active rehab every other day and it's seems like it's not getting any better. MRI results that I have disc bulge L4-L5 and L5-S1. I can't stand or sit down for a long time. My back starts to get aggravated almost every day. Somedays my left leg starts to hurt as well. My doctor think it's just a muscle issue and a nerver getting irritated. I have never felt this pain before and I was active growing up. Any advice will be appreciated

Jan 30, 2016 2:10 PM

Have you talked to your physical therapist about it? If you haven't told them how you are feeling and what your doctor said you should. I find (in general) that a physio will know more about muscles, referred pain and their treatments (most cant be cured so quitting stretching and strengthening will make it worse again) than any doctor.
Maybe you need a different physio or to add something like massage, chiropractic or acupuncture to your treatment plan. My pain is mostly muscular and my muscles pinch nerves quite often. I do massage, physio and acupuncture as well as stretching. I find yoga very good for both stretching and strengthening, but clear it with someone first because you don't want to make the bulging worse. Increasing core strength is the only other thing i can think of that might help.

Jan 30, 2016 2:41 PM

Thank you for your reply. I have told and described the best way I can to my physio and thinks it's a nerve issue. I have tried acupuncture and that didn't work. I go to active rehab to do core strengthening. Some stretches I can't do because it aggravates my lower back. A bone is pinching something and my lower back will flare up (pounding,pressing,sharp,burning/hot feeling across my lower back).

I have been wanting to go and see a chiropractor but my physio didn't think if it is a good idea.

Again thank you for your reply.

Jan 30, 2016 2:48 PM

Mri with contrast? See where the nerve is being pinched? A good chiropractor would tell you if they can help before they do any treatment, they should look at xrays and stuff and maybe take their own and discuss a plan before ever manipulating you.
I hope you can find something to help. Have you tried swimming? I've heard great things from people with pinched nerves in their backs. Apparently it takes the pressure off while in the water, but when you get out it comes back. It might be worth a try, maybe the little bit of relief for a short time will be better than nothing for you. There are 2 thought trains on that one, it comes back so why bother and every little bit counts.

Jan 30, 2016 3:30 PM

Thank you so much gotobef. I tried swimming too and it feels great when swimming but after that it creeps back.

I will go see a chiropractor. Thank you again

Jan 30, 2016 3:33 PM

Make sure you research the chiropractor and that they have a plan before letting them touch you.
Stay safe
Hope you find some relief

Jan 30, 2016 4:16 PM

Possibility of spondylolithesis (a slipped vertebrae) My L5 is slipped forwards over the S1, it gets painful when I'm standing and sort of dordling around, also gets niggly when I'm sat down for too long. I find when my back is really bad the front of my thighs start to ache really bad. I hope they can pinpoint exactly what's happening and find you some kind of relief x

Jan 31, 2016 5:53 PM

Thank you gotobef and I will definitely look up a good Chiropractor.

I feel the same way Ouuchh. I'm able to do 'light chores' around the house and afterwards my lower back gets aggrevated and starts to hurt with some tingly feeling down my left thigh to my foot. Once my lower back starts it's hard for me to move around.

Also when I tilt my pelvis I feel this sharp pain on my lower left side down my buttocks to my legs.

Thank you for your reply Ouuchh.

Feb 01, 2016 12:58 AM

I'm meant to tilt my pelvis all the time to hold the slip in place but it's so difficult and I'm forever forgetting to hold it so my back ends up worse because it's pulling on all the ligament 😒 wish there was a reset button on my body!

Feb 01, 2016 2:49 AM

Crazywiki totally fell for you. I'm in the same boat and have just had chiropractic assessment. He took plenty of xrays and took an in depth history. He the did a physical assessment t including posture, walking and a hands on feel of my spine.
He has created a plan for that will involve 2 visits per week initially followed by 1 adjustment visit and 1 massage visit weekly before hopefully reducing to 1 visit per week.
I'm sceptical and scared but gotta try something. I'll let you know how it goes! In the meantime take care, and keep us updated xx

Feb 01, 2016 8:58 AM

Crazywiki, when you described tilting your pelvis, it made me think of my SI joints. They slip out of place frequently, pinching and causing pain that sometimes causes sciatic nerve flare up. A doctor wants to fuse the joints but I'm afraid it might make things worse instead of better. I've had other doctors look at it and they don't recommend fusion.

I do have a pain specialist who gives epidural steroid injections (ESI's), which deaden the nerves for awhile, giving me relief. It's usually done in a series of three injx one month apart, under light sedation. My last injx were in January 2014, and I'm just beginning to have problems again.

I have a chiropractor who doesn't do treatment if she suspects it's neurological. She's referred me to neurologists twice. Good luck and best wishes for good treatment results! Hugs, love, & prayers! 🙂🙏💕🌼

Feb 01, 2016 9:02 AM

I had the same problems got surgery and it didn't do anything for me I'm going through worse pain then ever. I got a fusion

Feb 01, 2016 9:18 AM

Leolion, did you have fusion of the SI joints?

Feb 09, 2016 6:50 AM

I want to thank all of you ladies and gentlemen for sharing with me. It's always a great feeling to know that someone understands the pain I'm feeling.

*Update*

This week was full of stress, never ending pain,and now my right outside and mid part of my foot is swollen.

My right foot started to hurt Saturday night when I was at my friends house. We had dinner, talked, had a few beer and watched a movie. After the movie, I started to feel this pressing pain creep up on my back so I decided to get up and do some stretches and walk it off.

As I was getting ready to open the door, I started to feel this pain on my right foot. I didn't think much of it til I got home. The pain was more on the side of my foot. It's not even the whole foot that hurts. The pain makes it so hard for me to walk and I can't really move it now. It's almost 430 in the morning and I can't sleep.

Feb 09, 2016 8:37 AM

Crazy, an SI joint fusion was also recommended for me as well yesterday, but I'm not willing to do that at present.

Feb 09, 2016 12:28 PM

Hi Amanda, Can you tell me what SI joint is and what do they do when they do SI Fusion?

Feb 10, 2016 1:06 AM

Your pain in your leg , is it nerve pain,or mechanical pain....? I suspect it's a nasty case of severe sciatica. And because you have the disc bulges where you do, they are probably aggravating the crap out of the sciatic nerve,because the nerve roots that come out or L4-S1 feed into making the Sciatic Nerve.

See this link if it is neve pain you are experiencing.

http://www.spine-health.com/conditions/spine-anatomy/sciatic-nerve-anatomy

Feb 10, 2016 3:49 PM

Thanks JAHMAC! It feels like a nerve gets aggrevated and my doctor is telling me its not because I don't show any symptoms which I find weird. Everytime I do certain movements when I do my stretches/exercise ,sitting,walking or if i'm standing washing dishes it gets aggrevated and the pain starts like I can't even move. I have never felt this pain before especially on my lower back.

*update*
I saw my doctor regarding my right foot yesterday. Btw, the pain on my foot started a few weeks ago and it was on my Left foot.

Doctor looked at it and told me it can be gout and gave me inflammatory meds for the pain. I will find out in a week when I see my doctor again and see how it is.

Yesterday was the worst day of my life when my doctor pressed my foot I almost kicked my doctor in the face. It made it worst and got pretty swollen.

Now I have to deal with my back pain and my foot pain which sucks because I can't walk without my crutches. :(

Apr 09, 2016 6:19 AM

Crazywiki- did you ever get to the bottom of what was causing your back pain?😊

Feb 05, 2017 2:20 AM

Omg! JAHMAC I'm so sorry I just saw this msg now :(

Yes I did. I had a second MRI done last December and found out that my l have an Annular tear on my l4-5 with mild disc bulge and lost disc height on my L5-S1 and disc bulge.

I'm waiting to see a specialist regarding back injection. *Sigh

How are you doing?

Feb 05, 2017 12:15 PM

Sounds like you are in the beginning stages of Sciatica ( compressed nerves are painful ) even if they say it's "mild". PCM should refer you to specialist for opinion after MRI and other routines. I was able to try acupuncture after years of Physical Torture (PT) and drugs like tramadol or injection of toradol. I chose to get more of a holistic treatment ( TENS, heat, cold, essential oils, massage, tai chi, and meditation ). Not pain free, but so much better than drugs that knock me out.

Feb 05, 2017 3:55 PM

I have after 7 years plus threw myself at the mercy of a hot stones therapist she has reduced 24/7 pain right down to a manageable level..... I have through pain mapping learnt to not let pain frame my life as it has done in the past.... I still have very bad days. For 2 days I have sufffered from almost freezing pins and needles from foot to just below the knee.
Have by and large felt conventional medicine has failed me..... I now actively manage me pain myself through complementary medicine NLP and CBT.... it does not solve everything but at least I can reduce my heavy pain killers and live with a clear mind.

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