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Jan 22, 2015 6:22 PM

Does anyone else agree this should be legal!!
Guarantee I would be more relaxed which would ease the pain but how is something that will help illegal :(

Jan 22, 2015 8:02 PM

It is legal where I live. There is a difference in smoking it and consuming it. Consuming it doesnt get you high it sorta just relaxes me and eases the pain. I don't sleep well at night, which increases my pain to the point my body shakes, so I will use a little in candy bar form before bed. Even if I still don't sleep much it improves the quality of my sleep. In addition I have a hot rub and a cold rub with marijuana in it for achy muscles sorta like one is icy and one is hot. I think if it helps people they should have access to it. I think there is a misconception that people will become druggies and perhaps look for something stronger. I think there is always people who will abuse something and it is a damn shame they ruin what could help others. I want to add my 25 year old daughter is the one who bought it all for me. She said mom this will help you just try it. I said ok to trying it as long as I didn't have to smoke it I don't want to be high or for my child at home to know. Sorry that was a really long way to say....Yes!

Jan 22, 2015 9:20 PM

I absolutely agree that marijuana should be legal for medical use. I'm praying that NY gets everything in place before 2016 but it doesn't look good. I'm just hoping that it helps. After all this waiting, it would really suck
If I tried it and it didn't work. Last time I smoked I was in my 20's and I'm 50 now. I never liked the taste, the smell or even sometimes the high. I can't imagine smoking it now.. I guess I'd have to try the edibles.

Jan 22, 2015 9:24 PM

I have no clue how to obtain consumables legally and with out feeling shady. I am open to it but I don't want to smoke it.

Jan 22, 2015 9:36 PM

Well, when the medical is approved, the only way it can be consumed is vapor, edibles and oils. It will not be legal to smoke (unless the NYS Law Makers get the legalization of recreational marijuana). The only way to get it is to have a medical card showing approval for getting it and then you go to a dispensary to buy it. Here in NY, they want 10,000 to put in the application to be a distributor and then if you are approved, they want another 200,000 to become a grower/dispensary owner. I have no idea how this all is going to play out.

Jan 22, 2015 9:52 PM

Shammagren, I am so glad you posted. While it's not legal here in Ohio (don't know why - with the laws that get passed here, someone on the capital square is higher than a kite). I would LOVE to try cannabis & am happy that if consumed I wouldn't get high. I'm not about to smoke it but if my "sisters" husband wants to for his back, he should be allowed.

Here in Ohio there are people trying to get the issue on the ballot & they keep stumbling. They didn't get enough VALID signatures at the last election (which can be tough - had the same thing happen to me last time I ran for office). It would be nice if Uncle Sam knocked off his crap & made it legal on the federal level.

Harris - should it be legal? Hell yes. There are so many people who could benefit. And the whole crap about becoming addicted? The highest growing addiction right now are prescription drugs. Somehow or another they are plentiful on the streets. And I still have problems getting a script for Tylenol.

I would love to hear from others who are treating their pain with cannibis. How you get it into your body & how it acts for you. Do you purchase a certain type, how much it costs & how long that lasts.....anything. Thanks. And thanks Harris for the initial post. Good topic.

Jan 22, 2015 10:32 PM

I have it- and if you figure out how to use it (different strains, how much you take, etc) it can be quite useful! On bad pain days I wish I could use it and work!

Jan 22, 2015 10:45 PM

Shammagren- thank you for sharing, very interesting to read. Yes I believe it's all a misunderstanding about people becoming addicted. Where do you live? (For it to be legalised).

Alwayzinpain- Yes I would love for it to be legalised! I want to try it because I've heard it helps relax the body, I wouldn't want to 'smoke' it, I want the medical use to be legal! It should be! Ha hope it plays out well.

StayingPositive- Yes I would be open to it also, but unfortunately not when it's illegal.

Deena- I totally agree with you! Prescription drugs are worse for the body rather than something that can just relax you. It's not fair to the ones who could benefit from it. Not at all. Yeah, I was afraid people would disagree but I thought the topic would be good.

jesswoo76- thanks for sharing, I think it would be useful too.

Jan 23, 2015 1:50 AM

Harris, I live in Washington state...go seahawks! I am tense most of the time and on 9.5 pain nights like tonight I grab a little chunk of my 420 candy bar and chug a bunch of water. I take the smallest amount possible. Takes about an hour then I feel my body relaxing...then come the yawns. Might even fall asleep before 2am today. I think people need to grow up most helpful drugs were used as a medical purpose before being labeled bad. While some are bad for sure and have lost or been replaced by a new drug marijuana is the only one that they can't mimic by other medication. I believe it is also one of the only ones that don't have an addiction problem. It was hard for me to resort to trying it. I smoked in high school for recreationally puposes but at 45 with a child still at home I never thought I would use marijuana again. Of course I am not smoking it or using for fun. Now it is time to go back to natural substances that can help. there is a cost of course to medical marijuana card. Seeing a dr that can help to get a card will not be your regular doctor nor covered by insurance. So that is an expense to pay out of pocket. Then there is the licensing fee. Oh and the cost of the product. I am broke I have not been able to work in almost a year. My husband just changed jobs and while learning doesn't make much. So how are the people that need it suppose to get it? It just needs to be legalized period. So the small amount of true potheads can quit wasting police time and let them work on more serious crimes and those suffering from pain can get some relief. stepping down off my soap box now

Jan 23, 2015 9:30 AM

Shammagren- Amen. Let law officials go after violent offenders. I do not know anyone killing because of the munchies. Alcohol is a bigger problem. Dont drive buzzed just too simple. Same warning is on our bottles of pharmaceuticals. Responsible use always.

Jan 23, 2015 2:57 PM

Lmb I agree about alcohol I am a non drinker. Alcohol if you drink to much can kill you. How many overdoses of marijuana have you heard of. Zip, zilch, none. The advantages far out weigh the disadvantages. For example I average 3 to 4 hours of sleep at night well sort of I wake numerous times. After many days of this my pain becomes so bad I can barely function. One small dose last night and I think I got 5 or 6 hours of uninterrupted sleep. I am sure that is why my pain level went down slightly. I sometimes wonder if I ate some more if the pain would become manageable. So why keep something from people that could help them? I know it doesn't work for everyone but those who want to try it should be given the chance.

Jan 24, 2015 1:00 AM

It not possible to overdose on Marijuana . Look at information on www.norml.org for facts.

Jan 24, 2015 12:59 PM

It is legal where I live and I use it for intractable migraine. I live in CA and can get it in just about any method (smoke, vapor, candy/edibles, etc.). My pain dr suggested it. However many of you have had better luck with it than I have. I could never get the amount of the edibles right, and because I throw up so much, they were quickly taken off my list. Long story short, I ended up using oil in a vaporizer pen. It usually only helps the daily headache (up to a 6). After that level, it sometimes helps my nausea but I usually need something stronger. I hope everyone gets access to see how much it can help you.

Jan 24, 2015 6:21 PM

How about canibis cream as a topical? I was given some homemade stuff and it's kinda a Vaseline base or something... It looks like they just blended it up with the plant... Not sure if it will work, does anyone know about it?

Jan 24, 2015 6:44 PM

Also I haven't used it yet... Contemplating

Jan 24, 2015 8:04 PM

I like the topicals, myself.

Jan 25, 2015 2:50 AM

I had been seeing the same neurologist for pain management for 8 years. My last visit I tested positive for Marijuana. I received a letter that they would no longer be treating me because I broke the controlled substance agreement for Marijuana. I'm ready for laws to change. Now I have no meds that I've been on for years. I'm ashamed to even go to another doctor. I'm a nurse, but have been unable to work for 10 years. In so much more pain now.

Jan 25, 2015 9:56 AM

I use the cannabinoid creams topically as well and I love them even though my pro-marijuana dr said there's been no definitive proof that they work. They work for me. I use it on muscle spasms/muscle knots - much better than lidocaine cream. As I mentioned in my previous post, the edibles didn't work out for me because I vomit so much with the pain, plus it's very difficult to get them right. I use the oils in a vaporizer- and I've never gotten "high" but truthfully NOTHING makes me high, not even opioids. Some day I'd like to do a study on REAL pain patients and the effect of pain meds on just them. I truly believe that real pain patients have a different metabolism and react to pain meds differently than our blessed pain-free friends/family. Anyway, more on the marijuana. It comes in two basic strains: Indica and Sativa. I find that I do better on the Indica's or maybe a hybrid of the two. And finally after much trial and error, the higher cannabinoid to THC ratio is the ticket. My favorite is the 18:1 cannabinoid oils but I'll even go to 4:1 if I have to. The THC is more responsible for the "high" in marijuana and the CBD's (cannabinoids) are more responsible for pain relief. This is a double edged sword however because more people want the THC so you may find that you pay a lot more, or worse - can't find the CBD's anywhere. But help is on the way! Ever since the Charlotte's Web" story about the 5 yr old in Colorado that takes it, it's getting more popular. Finally, finding the right strain and delivery method for you can be very expensive so be aware of that. I hope this helps!!!

Jan 25, 2015 10:16 AM

Tobin, I have a question for you? How often do you smoke (or how every you intake marjuana)? Was wondering how long before your appointment did you use it that it showed up.? Since I haven't used pot since my 20's I don't know how long it stays in your urine. I've been going to the same pain doctor for 18 years and I wouldn't do anything to get myself kicked out and not get my meds. I praying when they finally get the legal medical marijuana set up in NY, I can try it and see if it helps. My doc said he would recommend it for me. I'm 50 now so I don't even know how it will effect me.. I just want my pain levels to go down from an 8 to something more manageable.

Jan 25, 2015 2:15 PM

First you can buy test Strips on Amazon get the ones that are CLIA approved. They are cheap accurate and simple. If you smoke very rarely the THC is gone in a week. If you smoke all the time like everyday it can take 30 days or more. Sometimes 45 days. The tricky part is the edibles they take longer and it also depends on your metabolism and body fat. The paticular strain matters also. To be safe plan on 45 days and just test yourseld. If you are thinking of quick fix urine additives STOP any lab will run a creatin level you will get busted. Taking in clean urine does not work either because you should be positive for the medications you are prescribed plus it is hard to keep the temperature in the correct zone. Keep in mind a proper drug test has someone go in the bathroom with you and watch you give your sample!

Jan 25, 2015 2:17 PM

Tobin, can you go to another pain clinic, tell dr the truth and just start over with the understanding that you will stick with the pain meds they prescribe?

Jan 25, 2015 11:41 PM

In Ireland we don't have MMJ - It's tottally illegal - but it helps my pain & all Dr's know I use. I used to smoke it but have recently changed to a vaporiser.

Jan 26, 2015 10:47 AM

LMB.... That is great info, however, I've not used in over 20 years.. lol. I was just curious as there have been many folks that have been booted from my pain clinic for testing positive for marijuana. I've been to a recent 48 hour poker party and 80% of the people there smoke. Not only did we play in the basement (which was a giant cloud), I slept down there on the couch!! I don't think that should show up in my system, but if it does, I'm not worried because, I didn't use it. The info is good to know though.

Jan 26, 2015 12:14 PM

I would love to be able to get off my pain meds.took same ones for more than 8 yrs regularly
I have several chronic conditions... I have degenerative disc disease and have had to have one disc replaced and in need of another, I have fibromyalgia. Sciatic nerve damage and pain. Low back and upper back pain and severe neck pain that affects the use of my left arm, numbness in my face and ear. On top of all that I have anxiety, depression and bipolar disorder, for which I have taken meds for about 15-20 years...
It would be phenomenal to be able to have one treatment/medication for all of my symptoms..
I live in TN so no legalization yet. I pray it comes soon I would love to at least have some of the pain gel/ointment.
I think it really is a miracle drug and so many more pros than cons.
I saw on a documentary yesterday that there was a spray you could spay on your tongue like at work or in public..just to take the edge off.

Jan 26, 2015 12:43 PM

I have the hot and cold ointment for aches but have found that taking the edibles and getting a good night sleep helps the most. After 2 or 3 nights of sleep I feel almost normal. Still have to take a nap during the day and be careful not to over do it. The brain fog is improved also.

Jan 26, 2015 1:10 PM

It would indeed be great to get off the multitude of Meds I take and just use ONE. Only problem is that the cost factor is a rough thing. Those of us who can't work and are on disability can't afford too much other than to live. I would scrape up change and hunt discarded soda cans for the nickel so I could get it.

Jan 26, 2015 3:52 PM

I don't know anything about medical marijuana. I remember sharing a joint with 7 other people and I passed out, and got sick for inhaling too deep! I was only 18 and had never even smoked a cigarette!

In the recess of my mind though, I still remember the commercial... "This is your brain on drugs"... A sunny-side-up egg in a hot frying pan! Lol That's exactly what I felt like that night. 😯

Jan 26, 2015 5:40 PM

Thank you all so much for putting in! I'm so grateful this is a topic that can be talked about and you all have shared and said stuff both unfortunate but helpful to me.

Jan 26, 2015 5:45 PM

I Strongly agree if medical marijuana or just marijuana in General will help you relax and decrease pain levels. It should be legalised! I totally agree that alcohol is worse! How many accidents happen from that.. In comparison to marijuana..right?
I'm only 17, I know that's only young, but I guess that's my point, I want to have fun in my teenage years with everyone else..not in pain. And I just thought hearing information from you guys in a topic about marijuana may be helpful not only to me but others too!

Thanks again guys.

Jan 26, 2015 6:51 PM

My data shared came straight from working in hospitals with some awesome pathologists, anesthesiologists and a recent article in a professional pain management peer reviewed article. I am sure our doctors did not want the info shared. Too bad. Tried and true information.

Jan 26, 2015 9:12 PM

very grateful

Jan 28, 2015 4:22 PM

I'm thinking about trying it but I am currently on a workers comp claim and Majoris is the insurance... I am afraid to try for fear of them and what they may do. Highly unlikely I will be able to return to my career as they have stated they won't have work for me unless I am 100%... Can't afford the whole medical card thing either.

Jan 28, 2015 5:16 PM

Tobie-I understand violating the pain management agreement but suddenly stopping many medications ( Opiods, benzos, ect.) can cause seizures. Who will be responsible for that? It is my understanding when a patient is dropped the physician has to provide care for 30 days after sending them a certified letter telling the patient that they are being dropped. Also the physician should suggest other pain management doctors in the area. Worst case senerio go to a crappy pain management pill mill get what you need then find another qualified doctor. Best of luck to you.

Feb 17, 2015 7:27 PM

Just an FYI - just smoked a good strain called "Headband" , legal here medically. Before this I came home from work with all over headache, neck and should and upperm arm and back pain. Two hits later.... it went from an 8.5 to a 1. Hell I wish I could work and use marijuana!

Feb 17, 2015 7:29 PM

Legally I could, but I would get worried people could tell! Plus how does one make marijuana and be a therapist. Although it may be like taking an opiate and doing it?

Feb 17, 2015 7:29 PM

That was "use" not "make"

Feb 17, 2015 11:25 PM

I live in Colorado so it is legal here. I use the lotion a lot but is the only thing that helps my pain and it has no side effects. The lotion also doesn't get you high so I stay in control. I pray every state takes the step toward legalization because I don't know what I would do without this option

Feb 18, 2015 3:47 AM

I live in the UK and pray everyday for marijuana to be legalised , it really helps , it takes the pain away completely for a few hours but as I have to obtain it illegally I can't guarantee how "high" I will get . My wife makes bread with it and I either have a sandwich or some toast . Depending on the quality I sometimes have to have more or less bread .

If they would legalise it I could guarantee my high every time and not have to worry about not being able to drive or leave the house .

Feb 18, 2015 11:11 AM

I live in NY and they just legalized it in June 2014. It's going to be at least another 18 months before its up and running with the dispensaries. They are also making it legal ONLY for vaping, oils or edibles. You can't smoke it. I'm 50 and haven't smoked since I was in my 20's. If I knew for sure I could bring my pain down from 8.5 to even a 3 or 4, I'd try. I can't though because with pain management and urine tests, you can't use marijuana because they will stop treating you at pain management. Don't know how it will work when it is finally up and running. The latest legislation is trying to legalize marijuana for recreational use here as well... We'll see how it goes.

Feb 19, 2015 3:19 AM

Alwayz ingesting it doesn't give you the high but relaxes you. Everyone is different but I prefer not to smoke it. For me it helped me sleep which was great since even on all the meds I have insomnia and the doctors don't believe me. Anyway it took my pain down some and just having a couple degrees less is amazing. It is one of those things you have to experiment with and find your right. And just like other medications you have to try it for a while. I also have some creams that help my sore muscles. I never thought at 45 I would be using marijuana. I am now pro "Mary jane" and think it should be available for people with medical conditions it could help.

Feb 19, 2015 8:40 PM

I living Texas and it is illegal here. I wish that they would allow for medical. I had never heard of there being cream or in vapor. I would gladly use the cream if it would bring my pain down to a 4 or 5. My pain level stays around a 8-10, lately since my Dr. put me on Fentynl patches he started me out on 20 mg for a.month but my pain level didn't change . Went for my refill script he put me on 50 mg, using my hydrocoden/apapa for break thru pain, was taking 2 every 6hrs around the clock now I have dropped down to 2 once day and this at bedtime so I can rest better, I also take mellatoin and that helps me get more sleep.I have always had problems being abel to sleep from the pain,would only get about 3-4 hrs night. Now I average 5-6 hrs now I may wake up to go to the bathroom but fall right back to sleep.

Feb 21, 2015 11:15 AM

I live in Wa state where it is legal for medical as well as recreation..I can honestly tell you as a long time smoker (18 years) for pain I have never had success, but it relaxes me so that my body is not tensing up because of the pain..this is a big help in my opinion. I feel we should all have the option, it is a medicine and should be treated as such for those that need it!

Feb 21, 2015 12:17 PM

I agree... I have gotten approximately 5 hours total sleep in the last 3 nights!!! If it would help me, I would love to have the choice

Feb 21, 2015 3:41 PM

Me toooo!

Feb 21, 2015 5:56 PM

I'm in Washington DC where it is technically legal but if not for epilepsy, only if your doctors go through a bunch of hoops and fill out endless forms which essentially makes it impossible to get. I used to get THC in a capsule prescribed to me for intractable nausea that accompanied a GI condition I have that is mostly under control now, thankfully. Anyway I have smoked dope on and off since age 17 or so (38 now) but having no reliable source in last four years or so I haven't taken it to ease my phantom limb pain since then. Also my pain dr

Feb 21, 2015 6:00 PM

Oops, got cut off! I was writing that I don't want to get cut off from my pain clinic for testing positive for marijuana without a script. It strikes me as ironic though that my pain doctor wants to give me ketamine infusions but is opposed to getting me medical marijuana. Speaking of these infusions, btw, I'm scheduled for a series of three infusions in August -- but am on wait list should there be a cancellation sooner. Ketamine is a dangerous drug with major side effects, but she'd rather give me those than a perfectly natural, safe drug... Sigh.

Feb 21, 2015 10:52 PM

That's ridiculous, @mlbower1997 ..how unfair is that! 👎

Feb 24, 2015 8:21 AM

I completely agree that it should be legal. My brother has his card here, (bc and alberta) and it helps him.
I have tried a couple delivery methods, but the one thing that seems to be consistent (or inconsistent), is that a persons tolerance can change drastically. Going from no thc in your body to an edible can be difficult because your tolerance will be at zero. Even recreational smokers unless they are chronic smokers only will have a small tolerance to a strong edible. The trick is to start off with an amount that doesn't pretty much do anything, then work up your tolerance until you can treat yourself.
Every year I do a sober February. It helps me reassess the condition of my body and make sure my crutches haven't taken over. I know that isn't an option for many of you on serious meds.. I have been trying not to go down the prescription path when I can avoid it. This year has been the most difficult yet. Mostly, the lack of sleep is adding to my overall anxiety, and my muscles feel very tense 24/7.
CBD meds are much more difficult to obtain than thc rich meds, and usually cost more. If you eat oils, they can be mixed with other cooking oils to help you moderate your dose. Coconut oil, and grapeseed oil seem to be the most popular right now, from the people I know. If you can get a bigger batch it is easier to regulate, as you know how potent it is, so can guage it off that. Not exacly an easy task when it's illegal. Also, I think people in pain tend to not get as high as people who aren't in pain. If you look at how big the doses get for cancer treatments, it is kinda mind boggling how much they work up to.
Hang in there guys!

Feb 26, 2015 12:33 AM

Hi unamed,

I was just curious on how your brother got his card, I have been to the highest neurologist in southern AB, was sitting in his office when he called the office of surgeons, they came back with "we do not support this" and he was not able to prescribe. The only way I can see it now is through some online doctor but the rules have changed so it isn't that simple any more.

Mar 02, 2015 9:53 PM

Here in Oregon we have medical and in July it will be legal recreational. It IS unhealthy to smoke. However, the topical a and ingestables work amazingly well. There is also a FDA approved drug called matin il. It is pure cannaboids and no high is felt in dosages until you're taking a huge one. That is for most people. It is legal everywhere. It is a medication you get from your pharmacy. It is clean and pure with no questionable additives.

Mar 06, 2015 12:57 AM

Any insight into workers comp and their view of medical use??? In Oregon or elsewhere?

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