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My doctor think my depression is causing my pain? HELP

Aug 02, 2015 12:15 AM

hello, fibromyalgia sufferers & other sufferers with chronic pain. i'm having a problem and need help. i have these widespread pain all around my body and it's been going on since i was 14. (i'm now 20) i've been to my doctors to try to resolve it but they don't know what it could be. i've had blood test done and nothing come up. i did have low vitamin d but took some vitamins pills and results came back good but pain was still with me.

so far, i've taken coproxamol, naproxen, codeine, ibiprofen, diclofenac, amitriptyline & paracetemol. they didn't do anything but make me sleepy or sick due to side-effects. i also tried phyio-therapy; i felt like it made it worse but really it just hurted a lot and still have the pain.

I recently moved and have a new doctor but i got really angry because i asked for new painkillers to try but he thinks 'i've tried them all' but i know that's not true and think my depression is causing the pain and refered me to counselling which i really don't want at the moment. i do have depression but i really don't think my depression is doing this to me. we talked about the pain and he thinks i'm to young to have this pain and that need to bring my mother next time, so he can see her view on it! THIS MADE ME SO ANGRY!!! i'm an adult, i don't need someone to tell you how i feel, if I'm the one in pain!!! i also asked for sleeping pills because I can't ever sleep well and he said no because he's afraid I'll become addicted to it and i tried to reason that it could benefit me but he just shut me of :(.

also, my girlfriend think i could have fibromyalgia, from what i told her about the pain and where it is and other things but don't want to go around thinking it idk.

i need help! what you you guys do in this situation? would you find new gp/doctors? should i book an appointment again w him and explain i really need something? what painkillers do you think i should try next, if i do end up have a better doctor and asking about meds? x

Aug 02, 2015 1:31 AM

Just a comment, pain and depression go hand in hand.
I'm 14, had depression as an attempt to cope with pain, now they both get worse/better together.
I've seen a counselor who deals with pain specifically, and she said sleep is really important for pain not to get worse as fast. Do any over the counter sleep meds work for you?

Also, some alternative or herbal meds to consider, deepening in where you live.
Kava kava root, magnolia bark, garlic, lemon balm, Tumeric, low dose Naltrexone, Gallium.If your doctor won't listen to you, look into finding a new one. Would someone be willing to come to an appointment with you, and us that okay, for you? If not, find a new doc.

Aug 02, 2015 9:53 AM

I say switch the douche bag out!!!

From what you've just said it sounds like another appointment will do nothing but waste your time. Bring your mother?!?! Like wtf is that all about!
The counseling might actually be a good idea (i know i could use some at times) but the fact that they dont listen at all doesn't work in your favor. If you have the option of seeing someone else you should for sure take it.
I have been in a similar situation and i know how upsetting it is for a medical professional, someone who is supposed to help you, tell you that your pain doesn't matter.
I did see my dr a couple more times over six months and ended up leaving with NO medication to help control my RA. It was a frustrating waste of my time.
Its not going to hurt you try another dr. And really, you can always go back to the first crackhead if you have to.

I hope you are able to find some help and relief soon!

Aug 02, 2015 10:28 AM

I would firstly make a complaint to the practice manager. And then to NHS direct. It's important to remember that you're entitled to be listened to and respected in your own right. No GP has the right to demand a family member attends with you as if you were no more than five.
If you have a friend or family member that can support you at an appointment (I find men are generally more respected), you may have more luck. It shouldn't be that way, but it often is sadly. Definitely complain though!!

Aug 02, 2015 5:02 PM

Petitegabby, I would get a new doctor. He was totally disrespectful to you, asking you to bring your mother. Just because you've tried some meds and they didn't work, he shouldn't have dismissed your requests.

Ferretbandit is right about there being a connection between pain and depression. I was referred to a psych doc by my pain doc. He refused to treat me until I saw one. It was a blessing in disguise! The psych doc ran a saliva test on me to see how I metabolized pain & depression meds, because I have a very long list of allergies & adverse effects. It turns out I do not metabolize benzodiazepine meds, and I have a genetic defect where I don't metabolize B Vitamins especially folic acid. She weather me of the Ambien, and cymbalta, putting me on Nortriptyline and natural vitamin formula of L-Methylfolate. I used melatonin making sure I had 7-8 hours of sleep. My new psych doc kept doing land to check my serotonin levels, because it was also staying too low. Low serotonin can increase pain and depression. My D vitamin level is too low as well. It's a vicious cycle between pain, depression, & sleep.

So as of now I'm on Nortriptyline (75 mg) to level the serotonin, L-Methylfolate for my B supplement, D3 vitamin supplement, and multivitamin. And because so many here have recommended it, I'm taking magnesium vitamin too. My depression, sleep, and pain have been improving. I have daily pain at a 4-5 level, but it use to be a 7-8.

PJB's advice to take someone with you is good too. It helps when they give the doctor insight into what your days are like. I started taking my hubby with me and the docs are totally different towards me now! Sad but true!

Try methods & suggestions others use. I'll be praying you get a really good doc. Consider a psych because they can do more with labs than others. The brain is a sensitive organ and most docs don't understand how chemical levels can be the cause of many things. Good luck! 🙏🌼

Aug 03, 2015 4:24 AM

"you are too young to be in so much pain" is the dumbest argument I have heard in a very long time. It seems like your doc is not a pain expert. I would look for a new doctor who you feel respects you and who you can trust.

Depression can cause pain. But usually it's the other way around.

There are special antidepressants which relieve pain at the same time. Talk to a good pain mgmt doctor about it.

Aug 03, 2015 4:28 AM

I would still do the counselling with a pain specialist. Check out the topic about "psychologist specialized on chronic pain "

Aug 03, 2015 4:31 AM

About "bringing your mother" : Tell your doc to bring his professor or a pain specialist who has a clue about chronic pain. Reading about your ignorant doctor makes me angry... I had to deal with similar issues.

Aug 03, 2015 7:05 AM

I agree with them can that doc and it helps to take someone who is on your side to get up to the doc and tell them what's up with you good luck

Aug 03, 2015 5:15 PM

Daniel, that's funny about telling the doc to bring their professor! I'll try to remember that next time with a difficult doc. 🙏🌼

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