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Nov 17, 2015 8:36 PM

I have been having really nad nerve pain in my left arm for years. Recently it's been causing me to wake up late at night from the pain. Around this same time sciatica started getting bad and always in left leg. I also have had GAD and MDD for about 17 years. I've been smoking MJ for about 11 years now. I only smoke a few hits off a bowl at night time only top help me sleep as well as for the pain. I know I will get drug tested there. My other drs know I smoke. With this being my first visit, which is scheduled for Dec. 16th, if MJ shows up and im honest with the dr as I am with my other drs, should this affect anything? I am willing to stop smoking as I've done it before but it really helps with a lot and natural. It really helps with pain but I will stop if they can even just run some tests top give me answers. I've already had a Nerve Conduction Velocity and xrays and lab done. All negative. I just want answers but dont want to fail drug test for MJ and them not be willing to help. I meed advice.

Nov 17, 2015 9:27 PM

Welcome WantanswetsinAR! I can't advise you on the MJ, as I've only tried it once, well over 36 years ago. There are many here who can though. I was waking with arm pain twice. Once turned out to be from CTS, radiating up the arm. I had surgery and have had 90% successful. The other was an impinged shoulder, and I nerves PT for it. I hope you can find out the cause and get successful treatment. Hugs & prayers it all works out! 🙏🌼

Nov 17, 2015 10:59 PM

Thank you for the reply! I would stick to the MJ if I knew what was wrong with me but this is where I've been referred. I don't want to not find an answer just bc of something like that. I understand why they do what they do but im not going for narcotics. I just want an answer. It's frustrating not knowing!

Nov 18, 2015 6:01 AM

We all understand that; wanting an answer. 🙏🌼

Nov 18, 2015 12:00 PM

WantsanswersinAR, when you go to pain management for the first time be honest about the mj and let them know that if it effects their willingness to help you, that you are willing to stop smoking. Some places do not want to treat with pain meds if you are using mj. My pain management office has now gone to drug testing every month instead of surprise ones. I guess they feel there are folks getting away with smoking and want to catch them. It says in the contract I signed with them that if I take pain meds from another doctor or if they find I have smokes or used mj, I will be dismissed from the program. That's the last thing I want to happen as I'd rather have what takes off the edge and helps me function than nothing at all. The most important thing is to be as honest with them as you are with your other doctors. All the best and {{{Hugs}}} for good luck.🌻🙏🏻

Nov 18, 2015 3:22 PM

Thanks! I definitely plan on being honest! I've already filled out all paperwork and I'll have to bring in all my medicine bottles at each visit and will have a drug test on every visit as well. Im not worried about quitting MJ. I am worried about them not even be willing to run tests and such. I also worry about them putting me on some kind of narcotic and getting addicted. Several of my family members are also in pain management & have been for probably 10 years or more and they do fine but they say it can definitely be very easy to get hooked. I will have my husband hide them from me if I feel that may start happening.

Nov 18, 2015 4:53 PM

Dear Want, I know my pain doc will drop me in a hot second if I test positive. I just started usin CBD oil a few months ago and according to all my research it doesn't show up in drug screens. Have not had one yet so I won't know til that happens. Most pain specialists I have seen have a no illicit drug policy ( welcome to the Bible Belt). I don't know where you live but geography is part of attitudes. Good luck, hopefully ur new doc will be open minded enough to understand.

Nov 18, 2015 5:44 PM

Iann, not just a policy in the Bible Belt. Even little liberal Delaware(at least most PMs do) have a no illicit drug policy.

Nov 19, 2015 1:03 AM

Iann are the cbd oils helping?

Nov 19, 2015 1:47 AM

Have they ever done an MRI.

Nov 19, 2015 9:29 AM

No my referring dr said she won't order anymore tests until I see the pain management dr. I wanted her to order an mri since the ncv was negative except a few small things around my elbow

Nov 19, 2015 9:30 AM

Also I still have plenty if time so I can always try just quitting now but I am def nervous about the pain.

Nov 19, 2015 3:13 PM

Try gathering studies from the website: norml.org There are plenty of valid uses for MJ but our government has yet to agree that they really are because it is a schedule 1 drug. By definition a schedule 1 drug has no valid medical use. There is plenty of medical uses and research being done in other countries. Also if you need to be sure you have no THC in your urine test you can order drug tests off of Amazon. Order a test that is "CLIA waived" that will be very accurate and simple. The cut off amount is the same as a test done in the office. Drug test kits are cheap and not a bad idea to have available especially if you have kids or are just curious. As a general rule pain management will not write any opiod drugs for any patient that is positive for any illicit drugs. I wish you good luck. Keep us posted.

Nov 19, 2015 4:08 PM

First off, welcome! Second, be honest. You haven't signed a contract with the Dr yet, so tell him up front you don't want narcotics. Besides, narcotics don't help nerve pain. I have sciatica from lower back surgeries where the Dr nicked my sciatic nerve, so it never lets up. I also have an nerve being compressed at c-3/4 which causes nerve pain in my arms. They finally were able to see it only with contrast on an MRI. Did they use contrast on you? Also, not all Drs know how to do ncs. Get a second opinion. There are 2 meds that help with nerve pain. Lyrica and neurontin. Try lyrica first only because neurontin will leech calcium out of your body. I am facing major oral surgery in December to remove what teeth I have left and will have dentures at 51 yrs old. Good luck. Hugs. Keep us updated and if you need to vent, or ask questions or just make a statement about your day, this is a safe place for that. No one here will ever judge. Without these wonderful people, I would be in a luny bin by now. :-)

Nov 19, 2015 5:01 PM

I am actually currently taking Zoloft for depression and eas told either Cymbalta or Lyrica is good for pain and depression. I hhave an appointment with my psychiatrist next week and will be asking about changing. Also, they have not done any MRIs yet. Only the nerve conduction test and some xrays. :/

Nov 19, 2015 5:23 PM

X-rays only show bones. Cymbalta helps with depression caused by chronic pain. Zoloft and cymbalta together is a no no. You need to get off one or the other. Neither is going to help nerve pain. Lyrica or Neurontin are the only 2 meds that help nerve pain specifically. Make sure they use contrast in an MRI and have them do one of your cervical spine. My gut is very seldom wrong and it and my extensive medical background ( please don't think I'm bragging, I've just been doing this since 1987) are telling me that something is being pinched or compressed in your neck and most likely somewhere in your lower back. I hope I'm wrong. I always hope I'm wrong. If you want to exchange email addresses, let me know. I could go into more detail and I may be able to narrow things down so you can ask your Dr about it.

Nov 19, 2015 9:46 PM

WantAnswersinAR, you can read up on any medication at drugs.com. I was on cymbalta for depression and fibromyalgia pain, which it typically is good for (Muscle pain, not nerve pain). My first 6 months felt good, with decreased depression and fibromyalgia pain. Then I began hurting worse, sleeping less, and became moody and irritable. I was also an emotional wreck. While at the hospital with my dad, my hubby researched cymbalta side effects and showed me when I got home. I was having major bad side effects, even thoughts of wanting to die. Mind you not everyone has a bad experience, but for some like me, the withdrawals can be worse than the side effects! I nearly ended up hospitalized. Be aware of what you take and how it might affect you. That way you will hopefully know if it starts going bad for you. Good luck and I'll pray whatever med you choose works for you! 🙏🌼

Nov 20, 2015 10:07 PM

Thank you both! I've been on just about every anti-depressant out there for nearly 20 yrs. I know I will have to stop the zoloft if I take it. It doesnt seem to be working anymore anyways.
Thank you Cerea! I was really thinking that could be it. I've had severe upper back, shoulder, neck pain for years and it always got bad when I did something small like folding towls. It's recently been just lower pain it seems. The upper back pain doesn't happen as often as it use to. I will ask about mri with contrast. Thank you both for the advice on the pain/anti depressant medicine too! I know my psychiatrist dx me with chronic pain. Idk. Guess I'll just ask him what his thoughts are.

Nov 20, 2015 11:32 PM

Equine, yes the CBD oil helps, it doesn't get me out of really bad pain but it does help. I've gone from taking one breakthrough med everyday to using breakthrough med 2-3 times per week. At first I just feel calm then the pain just ebbs away. I like it because there is no high (I HATE feeling high). My daughter uses it for her fibro and panic attacks as well and it's working well for her too. I live in Indiana and it is legal here.

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