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night owl vs insomnia

Jan 19, 2016 9:56 PM

hi all

lately I have been reading about things my doctor has in my report and I keep coming across insomnia. my question for anyone with insight or comments or advice is this:

"What's the difference between being a night owl and having insomnia?"

On any given night I am not able to fall asleep until about 2am to 5am, though my work bedtime is 9pm and weekend is 11pm. I toss and turn or pace the house or knit or clean again, etc until I fall asleep from exhaustion. and it seems like the more I try to force sleep the longer it takes to actually fall asleep. it doesn't seem to matter how tired I am before bedtime, it's the same sleepless routine. the next day I drag through the day going through the routines. this usually happens for a week or two or more on end, then a day will come when I "crash" and then it starts over again.

Jan 20, 2016 12:44 AM

You have the same symptoms as me, I have insomnia one other thing is I have ptsd so that also doesn't help me. I am scared to close my eyes cuz of something that happened and even before that thing happened it would take me FOREVER to fall asleep eventually the doc put me on seriquil and it works like a charm.

Jan 20, 2016 8:30 PM

Confusedmom, it sounds like my insomnia. My mom & brother were night owls, staying up late and sleeping late, every day. My daughter (31) managed on 5 hours of sleep a night, and so does her dad. Some people just don't need as much sleep I guess.

One thing I did to help myself with my insomnia is to go to bed and get up at the same time every night, even on nights of insomnia. It took me three months before my body began adjusting and compensating. Now I fall asleep easily, but I don't always stay asleep, rarely actually. But by staying on a constant schedule I don't feel as tired throughout the day. Even on complete insomnia nights I'm not as tired the next day. I hope you can figure out something to help yourself sleep better. Hugs & prayers! πŸ™‚πŸ™πŸŒΌπŸ’•

Jan 22, 2016 10:47 AM

Definitely sounds like insomnia. My family has many night owls, as in we wake up at about 8 pm (or that's how it feels) and my dad recently switched to the night shift for his job, and he's so much happier! But then there's also insomnia, especially my roommate and I. She gets panic attacks, but they are much worse than mine because she has fear going back so far in her life, first her family, then their government. She's starting here, and her English is amazing...

Anyway, I get anxiety really bad at night so lately I've been sleeping on my couch with my dog looting on the ground because it makes me feel better. She always perks up if anyone is around, and will snuggle me if I'm breathing way too weird. It's really nice, especially with my dad gone and sister wanting to just leave.

Pain wise, I've done the same thing. No sleep for a week or two, crash, and repeat. I've found alternating night time valerian and Phenibut (one for a week, then switch) really helps.

Jan 24, 2016 10:24 PM

Thanks all.

FlappysLady81, I tried setting a routine for bout a month and I ended up tossing and turning in bed for hours. But after reading your post, I guess I should have given it more time.

Ferretbandit, Scottie, my terrier, sleeps with me most nights. He very good company when the kids have gone to bed. He calms my nerves too.

Though nights are rough,most morning are only bad for bout the first hour or two. I used to take over counter sleep aide but was still groggy or had headaches next morning.

Jan 25, 2016 7:38 PM

Confusedmom, not every method works for everyone. You could try again, or vary it to see if something else helps. Sadly last night was a bad night with a migraine, but I still got up as usual. I napped almost 2 hours today. Lol I also avoid intense TV shows after 9, recording then to watch in the daytime. I realized what I watch right before bed affects my sleep and dreams. I'm not having nightmares anymore. Lol I hope you can figure out a way to get more restful sleep. On nights of high pain, we all know it's nearly impossible. Hugs!! πŸ™‚πŸ™πŸŒΌπŸ’•

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