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No pain meds for me.

Mar 25, 2016 11:33 AM

Ive signed a pain management contract with my dr 3 years ago...he won't give me any pain meds. I can barely move most days. I just don't know what to do anymore. Feel like giving up.

Mar 25, 2016 6:46 PM

So how does he have you manage the pain?

Mar 25, 2016 10:38 PM

My pain management doesn't give me pain meds either because I've tried them all and nothing happens when I take them at all dosages. Trust me it's not a bad thing that your doctor isn't prescribing you meds that are extremely damaging to your body.
I'm in pain 24/7 and am bedridden but I'm glad I'm not always on pain meds that have side effects and I use holistic methods to cope.

Not all people should be treated by a dr throwing a medication at it, discuss ways to help your symptoms with your doctor. If your doctor will not help you I would get a new doctor that will find something that will help you.

Mar 26, 2016 11:06 AM

He doesn't manage my pain. That's my problem. I need a new dr. I use medical Marijuana which helps, but my old dr had me on oxycodone which helped. ...

Mar 26, 2016 11:07 AM

I have 3 herniated discs in my neck

Mar 26, 2016 7:06 PM

I am new to the pain management scene. ...signing contracts ...etc. But I now understand it is not uncommon. I just had an appointment with the pain management clinic this week and was pleased with the doctor but was surprised with being presented with the contract. Tired of the pain, the symptoms, the not being normal, the changes, the limitations. Today it seems I just don't care. The sun has been out, weather not too bad but I haven't left the house, haven't left my room much. Just let life pass by today. Been secluded, not talked to anyone... Not reached out but no one has really reached in either. Why do so many of us have to suffer with these illnesses?

Mar 26, 2016 11:28 PM

Hi guys never heard of that contract ?? I do agree tho pain killers arnt a good thing ,that's all my doctor threw at me for years instead of actually finding out what the problem was . So now I've been in bed since November with chronic pain , my neurologist told me that the more painkillers you have the more the body will want but giving you more pain to get them hmmm . I'm in hospital on the 30th of this month to have a pain inhibitor fitted in the base of my skull to hopefully help with the pain . Would this be something you could try ? My prayers are with you πŸ™πŸΌπŸ˜˜

Mar 27, 2016 12:31 AM

A pain inhibitor? Not come across that. Not come across the med free contract either. Wish I could go med free. *sigh* Sadly, that is not an option without a high risk of death shortly after stopping meds. 😣 Still struggling with my breathing since idiot practice manager changed one of my inhaler meds without telling anyone. Specialist was so angry, yet I'm still waiting for the one the specialist wants me on... In the meantime, I get out of breath climbing my stairs or just standing at times. Only thing that counters it ATM is steroids, which I desperately want to avoid. If anyone knows of a med free way of keeping my lungs working, I'm listening and hoping.

Mar 27, 2016 7:23 AM

I am not understanding why pain meds are bad if used as prescribed. If you have a diagnosised. For instance my diagnosis results in severe pain. So I want to be treated for my pain. Because it is debilitating. I would not refuse pain meds. Nor be upset with my doc for prescribing them. These pain contracts say they can randomly count your meds, that you won't change pharmacies
, you will only take meds as prescribes, etc. common sense things. I feel these contracts takes some of your rights away. For instance if an employee is mean and nasty at the pharmacy and I want to change pharmacies I am stuck there because of this contract. I do not feel like I have to get permission from the pain clinic. Maybe I am missing the point all together. I am feeling off today.
I am really swollen today. I am tired of looking at all these bruises on my body. My body hurts! And I just feel whinny today.... For no real good reason. Forgive me please!πŸ˜‚

Mar 27, 2016 9:35 PM

I want to know what an implanted pain inhibitor is. Also I have been to pain management more than once, but have never heard of a pain contract until these posts.

Mar 28, 2016 12:56 AM

Come on everyone, Narcotics mask what is happening! I know you want to feel pain relief ...and it is really what you want keep going to you doctor, Patient trust is a very important issue these days. Not doctor trust, patient trust. Many many many people have abused a physician's trust , by abusing and selling them on the streets, the docs are scared, they worked very very hard for their medical license, and this is just the way it is! Sorry. I am not sitting around here taking 320mg of morphine a day plus 80 mg oxys for breakthrough! Ha ....that's patient abuse ...so you don't like my post. I am trying to get you to see, you can not walk in , cry pain and be automatically prescribed the strong narcotics...no smart doctor will do it. It takes time, test, documentation, trust with how you follow any prescribed pain treatment plan, and it all starts with communication. Be mad, that's just gonna increase your pain levels and male things worse for you. I have a great doctor, I don't normally use any narcotics at all, unless I have hit that wall and have tried everything else. She respects this and so do I. Fact: the more narcotics you use , the higher the likely hood of increased psychosomatic pain perceptions. And , yes I reacted strongly to that word too. Sorry , you can not waltz in or wattle into a Doctor office and not have to sign contracts, pee in a cup, etc. They are protecting themselves as well. It does not mean Medical Negligence . it sucks , seek therapy, cuss, find a group of people where you live and try other options. But keep it positive when you refer to the medical profession . I was part of it. And it takes a lot to be that kind of person who wants to help and has to follow guidelines , protocols, and yes the law.

Mar 29, 2016 8:30 AM

Cry pain? I use my pain meds sparingly and most days I can't get out of the house or have a life. This is #ucked up.

Mar 29, 2016 7:49 PM

Tamtam, "cry pain" was not in any way shape or form a direct statement to any person in our forum. It is fucked up but Not impossible. I see patients with all sorts of life-threatening/ life-altering learn how to cope with ways of dealing with Chronic Pain. Most of the time it is not in forms of narcotics. You might want to consider making an appointment with a psychiatrist/psychologist that specializes only with people with Chronic Pain. They can help much, help bring meaning and purpose back into your life. I am truly sorry you are in pain and cannot get out of your house.

Mar 30, 2016 12:17 PM

Just went to my neurosurgeon, they also had a contract like that. But they said they would be prescribing adequate and appropriate pain meds for a certain amount of time, like a few months, while you recover from surgery, but no more. Since Tylenol 3 manages my pain from my spine well, and the rest can be handled with a TENS, I think I'll be ok.
I agree, medical cannabis is good for some things, like my PTSD, menstrual cramps, and "brain pain" from stress and anxiety. We tried it a few days ago for the pain from my nerves and it worked pretty well. I went from sobbing and twitching to just sitting quietly in a few minutes.

I totally understand the "no pain meds" thing, but I've known my VA NP for over 20 years. She should recall that I'm not an addictive type, that my pain is real, and I don't want or need more than I need, but I DO need it when it hurts. But she won't even give me Tyl3. She gave me tramadol, which interacts with my other meds in terrible ways. Maybe my hubby and I can trade, LOL. A quarter of a Soma will knock me out, and he takes several a day... he also needs the surgery I'm going to have in May, but he can't get the time off work, and his copay is really high. Ugh.

Mar 30, 2016 5:13 PM

I think pain medication is an effective way to treat pain. It has helped me immensely. I feel I have used mine very responsibly. But there now has come a need for oversight on both ends. When I was first put on pain medication, I knew nothing about them. I didn't know what was a good dose or a bad one. I shattered my ankle like a parachuter and my lower leg and hurt my back really bad. My pain was like a nine. I never hurt so bad in my life for so long. My doctor started me on 15 mg oxycodone and 100 mcg fentanyl patch. Within seven months, he asked me if I was still in a lot of pain? I never asked him for more medicine. I just told him yes. By the time I was done, he had me on 300 mcg of Fentanyl and 60 mg of oxycodone every six hours. I landed in the hospital in respiratory distress and this really nice internal medicine doctor told me I needed to at least come off a third of the medication I was on. So she became my doctor and slowly reduced me to a 100 fentanyl patch and 15 mg of oxycodone. So doctors need to be monitored too.

And patients are so badly abusing these drugs. My doctor told me that out of all the patients she originally had on pain medication she started in her first year, I am the only one she didn't have to throw off and that she trusted. I am not saying that to boast myself. But she is part of a university practice and sees tons of patients. I thought that was saying a lot for her. I think doctors have to protect themselves. Their liscence is on the line. They have all that money to pay back in student loans and they can't end up working at some burger joint to pay it back because they didn't protect themselves and try to make sure their patients were using their pain medication responsibly. Lots of people are dying. And they are giving them the pills that are killing them. Legally that has to be covered but that must also way upon them a little to. Just a thought or two

Mar 30, 2016 5:46 PM

In my opinion if you are in pain and your doctor is not treating your pain adequately, with or without opioids, you need a new doctor. Whatever your belief is, there is a doctor out there who will work with you and find the best way to treat your pain. I've been to a couple of pain clinics and I've found that some pain management doctors hand out pills, others want alternative to opiod treatment and some go for both. It's the ones who do both that you should try to find. All you have to do is Google pain management in your area, call and specifically ask what kind of treatments they offer. "Do you offer just medications or do you have other forms of pain treatments at your clinic?" Is the perfect way to find out what type of doctors are there.

In my opinion I feel that you need a mixture of both. I wrote a really long post about how I manage my pain. If any of you have the time you should check it out.

Mar 30, 2016 7:01 PM

sd7272, thank you for the great advice! I have not yet pursued pain management (I'm trying to seek the root of my pain first), but I will keep this in mind if it comes down to it! <3 I'm so tired (I feel physically ill because of prolonged pain), but I'm trying my best to keep trudging along!!

Mar 30, 2016 7:18 PM

It may be better to have pain relief of some sort while you find the "root". It could take a while, months or a year or longer to figure out the cause. And once you do it may not be a simple fix. With a pain management doctor you should have more than just opioids that will help with the pain while you get testing done. And just so you know, an average person doesn't become addicted to opioids for some time. And tolerances do take years normally. But if you do tend to build tolerance quickly (I do with all types of medications, not just opioids) you may want to find alternative to opioid treatment until you know more. It'd be a bad situation if you built up a tolerance and then needed surgery.

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