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Jun 24, 2016 10:20 AM

Yesterday I sent out an email at work asking people to please not wear cologne/perfume and not use scented lotion and soap at work because it's making me ill. I felt it was nicely worded and that it wasn't too overwhelming since I wasn't asking people to change laundry or hair products or even deodorant. But apparently it was too much for some and it highly offended them and making small changes like not wearing cologne was too much. So today someone, i don't know who and i don't know if it's more than one, is wearing more cologne than i struggled with yesterday. Luckily i was warned (too bad i had to ask someone to get that warning but still) and because of that warning i was wearing my mask today when i went in (yesterday i hadn't been). Luckily there are 2 areas we work in and for now most everyone is in the office so i have the other space (server room) to myself. Why do people have to be cruel and try to poison you on purpose? I fully expect someone to spray my cubical with cologne or sabatoge my lunch at this point. It makes me want to give up. I've had a few bad pain weeks in a row and this really isn't helping at all. Severe tension headache started on friday so it's been a full week of not being able to turn my head without getting very dizzy and constantly wanting to rip my neck muscles out. So done with people. To bad i can't afford to quit. Chemical sensitivity isn't recognized as a disability here so I have no protection

Jun 24, 2016 10:31 AM

can you talk to management? I would or even your HR department. That is very cruel 😞

Jun 24, 2016 10:35 AM

Gotobef, people really DO suck!! You're not asking them not to bathe for fuck sake!! All you're doing is asking them not to douse themselves in Cologne and perfume because of the illness they cause you. Years ago, they used to have people in the mall that would stand there in the high end department stores and spray passers by with new perfumes that they wanted to sell. I remember it was Christmas time and I was going passed Macy's and I told the lady, don't spray me, I'm allergic to perfume. Well, she followed after me and DID spray me!! In moments I had a reaction and felt my throat start to close and I couldn't breathe. They called an ambulance and the paramedics stabilized me and I declined transport. I got the manager of the store and the lady was fired and these days they are no longer able to do that to people because of that very reason. Don't these ignorant people you work with realize that people with chemical sensitivity can actually die from a physical reaction to their perfume?? I'm so sorry that you're going through this. I would call the department of labor and find out if you have any recourse to what is happening to you and that you have no backup with the management. Sending you well wishes, positive vibes, gentle {{{Hugs}}} and prayers of strength to get you through this bullshit. 💕🙏🏻🌻😊

Jun 24, 2016 10:46 AM

My manager has been notified. He is out of town and will deal with it on Monday. I've asked for air purifiers in the server room and the office, but i don't know if they are in the budget. His daughter has severe asthma so he gets it. The bitch in hr is one of the perfume wearing people in this building and she is a total bitch. She sabatoges everyone she doesn't like when it comes to moving up in the company. And im not liked by her because I'm not a proper dress, high heel, and makeup wearing lady. I like my runners jeans and hoodies and drop the occasional f-bomb. I'll get no where with her and trying will piss me off enough that i will start swearing. I'm just done with everyone. I'll isolate as much as possible and wear my mask when i can't.

Jun 24, 2016 11:35 AM

I worked in a corporate office where I wore jeans, t-shirts, sometimes tank tops, sneakers that I'd kick off when I got there and wore my socks and I have tattoos!! It was the best job and I worked in the insurance industry. I dropped the F Bomb regularly. I have a vocabulary that could make a trucker blush.. LOL!!😳 I totally understand not wanting to tangle with the HR woman. Personally, I'd probably punch her in the throat and get fired.. I hope your boss being understanding due to his daughter having asthma will assist in making the office a perfume/cologne free environment. {{{Hugs}}}💕🙏🏻🌻😊

Jun 24, 2016 11:53 AM

Gotobef, I'm so sorry! Omg, people are so selfish & inconsiderate. I worked in an office very similar to your atmosphere once. After being told we were to move out own desks to a new location, so if be away from the perfume wearers, which punished the other 2 in my office to a isolation room. I mentioned my asthma was exercise induced, chemically enhanced, and couldn't they have maintenance to move the desks. I was curtly told no it was my responsibility. Mind you we had large L-shaped desks that could not be separated into sections. Thirty minutes after finishing the move of desks I went into a full blown asthma attack, and ended up in the ER. When I returned to work the next day my boss didn't care at all what has happened. She wrote me up for failure to secure my station, and not finishing my work before i left. She's already tried to force me to get rid of my personal air purifier that the previous boss allowed me to have. When she & her boss did my 6 month review she brought all that up. She got it right back, politely but aggressively that the asthma attack was her fault for making me move the desks after it's told her exercise could cause an attack. She's failed to inform her boss of that. I finally quit the job, 6 months in. She was fired less than a year later! Document everything said to our by you, when, where, & what time, etc. You may need it! Hugs & prayers you have a more peaceful relaxing weekend! 🙂💕🙏🌼

Jun 24, 2016 2:49 PM

I do t remember if u told us where or what kind of work u do. But it sounds like to me it may be time to think of a new place or change department. Just thinking of all the other times and how long u have been dealing with these rude and uncaring people breaksy heart. I know jobs are hard to come by a d money is needed by all. But GOD forbid u actually ha r a serious reaction to these peoples chemicals. What if u end up in the hospital. I. Concerned and angered by how your managers a d coworkers are treating you. I mean even if in the beginning they wore annoyed by any certain request. I wish think at this point they would ha e become accustomed to your needs. I'm sorry if my tone is harsh. I've kind of been in mood all day. But this is like this irritate me. I. Sorry u have to endure thus just to earn a living.

Jun 24, 2016 3:25 PM

Gotobef, I am so sorry you are having to deal with such idiotic people, Flappys is right I would keep a log on everything. When I was assistant General Manager at a Hotel, I had daily log for everyone to write in and to make sure there was no problems that had to be hatched out. Be sure to keep a log.

Jun 24, 2016 5:41 PM

Sorry to hear that you have to deal with that.people have a really hard time understanding allergies.I had to switch schools because my school refused to close the Windows even though I am anaphylactic to pollen

Jun 24, 2016 6:27 PM

Oh Hopetobe, anaphylactic to pollen, I'm so sorry. That has to be incredibly difficult. What do you do to protect yourself from it?

Jun 24, 2016 6:47 PM

Thanks for the support everyone. After coming in to an office filled with cologne and having the one person I thought was on my side shit all over me about the email and how it was offensive and i was being a demanding bitch I'm wondering if i am the problem with everything. I'd had my supervisor read it and ok it before i sent it out (he wasn't there today) so i though it would be ok. I tried to word it nicely and i tried to beg for help without coming across as a bitch or being completely desperate (people prey on vulnerability and desperation). Maybe i am the cause of all the problems. I've never actually worked anywhere where someone wasn't hating on me. At the coffee shop and the fitness centre they drove me out by not giving me shifts and changing what i did have with no notice. At the grocery store they wouldn't let me change my available hours to go back to school after summer break and kept scheduling me for shifts i couldn't make. At the clothing store they gave me 2 cent raises and hired new people at 5 dollars more an hour than i was making and i was the supervisor. And while maintaining flowerbeds for the city run golf courses i was constantly being told i was doing it wrong and i wasnt good enough for the job. My family are farmers, I've gardened my whole life and the guy couldn't tell the difference between a pansy and a petunia but apparently i was doing it wrong.
I was always getting shit on for mistakes other people made. Apparently some people asked not to work with me ever again at my previous jobs.
I was not feeling well one day at the clothing store so I isolated myself as much as possible so i wouldn't take it out on others. I apologized to the woman i was working with for my being antisocial and her response was that she liked me better that way and she would be happy if i never tried to talk to her again.
Common factor = me.
I've been isolating as much as possible at work since being poisoned and will continue to do so so that i don't bother others.
If im a problem here too please tell me and suggest ways i can approach things better so as to not be a problem any more. Thanks

Jun 24, 2016 7:38 PM

Gotobef you are not the problem at all. Goodness some people are just ruthless in that mob mentality. I don't understand why chemical sensitivity is such a disregarded problem either. Time for new surroundings I think.

Jun 24, 2016 11:35 PM

I need the phone number to your workplace...i can handle it in one fucking phone call..(giggling) ask Alwayz...she knows me..lol just saying..let me at em...love and blessings,Terri

Jun 24, 2016 11:46 PM

When they break me completely and I'm out the door I'll give you the phone number.
💖

Jun 24, 2016 11:47 PM

Terri will have it sorted straight off!! 👍🏾
Sending some JAHMAC love your way Terri 😊X

Jun 24, 2016 11:47 PM

Ahhhh heck, I could really use the opportunity to "professionally"vent.. but. Okay

Jun 24, 2016 11:49 PM

Waving at JAHMAC...sending love and hugs back to you!!!!😉 Nice to be seen again!!!! Love ya!!xxxxxxoooo

Jun 25, 2016 9:26 AM

Maybe you should use these mindless lot and your issue to your advantage!? G

Jun 25, 2016 10:41 AM

Unfortunately people are very cruel and dont Understand things they can't see or don't deal with themselves. We all know how that feels right!? Having your manager understand may be your best defense BUT if the HR lady is not going to be on your side, I'm afraid it will be a losing battle. I know that jobs are hard to come by but my suggestion is that you start looking. I don't see any way that this is going to end well for you and you don't need the added stress. I don't know you at all but I read your comments all the time. You seem very nice and so I can't imagine that you're the bitch in every place you've worked. My only suggestion on that is that when you start working w new people, kindly explain what you deal with and that you don't ever mean to be a bitch but sometimes, when you're not feeling good, you can be (can't we all) and for them to just let you know if you're outta line. It may make them a little more willing to work with you if they know they can say something and that you'll understand. I don't know....that's how it is with my kids and I and trust me, they'll tell me to go to my room hahahahaha I wish you the best of luck with this. It sucks when we have to spend most of our free time at a place where we're miserable! I wish money weren't that Important!

Jun 25, 2016 10:48 AM

Talking to the guy on with me today (skeleton crew on the weekends yay), he said that only a couple people got pissed with me and my email initially and when they started taking about it and bashing me more joined in and more got upset. Evening crew yesterday asked me who sprayed what in the office to make it sink so bad so that part is not imagined by me. 2 of the guys on evening shift last night demanded to know who said what about me but since i heard about the bashing session third hand and they were very tight with names and wouldn't tell me anything i couldn't tell them. It's logged and hopefully the manager will deal with it on Monday and it'll all be fixed before i have to be there on Wednesday. I'm going to ask to skip the meeting with the director on thursday, or maybe i can call in to it even though its going to be in this building.

Jun 25, 2016 12:27 PM

Not in Canada Terri. There is a human rights thing I can reference.
I'm going to talk to my boss Wednesday and see what documentation he needs for an official disability acommadation request since this is getting out of hand.
I don't even know what to request though. They bought me a mask and replacement filters. It hurts the stupidly sensitive right side of my face to wear it so i can't wear it all day.
Air purifiers? I have no idea. Scent free work place will never fly, and after getting shit on for asking for help i don't want to try.

Jun 25, 2016 12:34 PM

I am truly sorry for the difficulties you are having to go through at work. As a retired nurse, we had to be extra careful with scents too, so we would exacerbate any patients or guest. I hope and pray you can get some kind of legal assistance with this very vital health issue. Much love, Terri

Jun 28, 2016 4:53 PM

Oh no, don't give Terri that number... LOL!!! That is unless you're telling them the shove their job up their ass!!! I wish I could make things better but short of turning Terri loose on the bastards, I can't imagine what else I could do. {{{Hugs}}}💕🙏🏻🌻

Jun 28, 2016 5:14 PM

And workers comp days my intolerance to everything from chemical exposure at work is not a work related injury and it's not disabling. I'd like the person who made that decision have to deal with getting sick everyone someone walks past.
I emailed her because I struggle on the phone stating that i didn't agree with her and why. She wanted a phone call. So I'm guessing it's not going to go anywhere

Jun 28, 2016 5:27 PM

Don't get ahead of yourself. It may go better than you think

Jun 29, 2016 2:22 AM

Keep on fighting! You are not only trying to improve the environment for you ,but there may be people who are in the same kind of situation as you. I think you have done everything in the proper order; you have followed the chain of command. Now, it is time for you to step over Human Resources head. Go further up the chain. If you can,perhaps, ask a lawyer for legal advice. Write a letter to the television news channels, maybe they would be interested in a interesting story you are fighting. I realize you must feel completely overwhelmed and alone,but you are not alone. Your local television station might take a huge interest in your fight and the health concerns/invisible illnesses that you and other employees have to deal with in the workplace. Keep fighting...slow steady progress, this is part of your journey. I am praying for you. Please lean on all the support and receive all the love we have here at Catchmypain. Much love and blessings, Terri

Jun 29, 2016 2:50 AM

This is an outrage! Everyone has some challenge in their life. There is a lot I don't understand and people treating you this way is one. Yes, document, yes go over hr's head. And maybe when you call local TV stations & other media, talk with the person who answers the phone and anyone else you can speak with, ask them the title of the person (if not their specific name) and the name of the department that would be in charge of that.
{{Hugs}}

Jun 29, 2016 9:32 AM

Don't give up! Hang in there! I have the same problem with perfumes and had had the same problem with people in every place I've worked. Although most people are understanding, there is always at least one person who hadn't heard of perfume allergy before and thinks I'm just trying to be a pain in the butt. Usually the ones who use very much perfume... One angry lady even told me that the scent was a part of her personality and she couldn't afford to buy a scent -free lotion, hairspray, shampoo etc. I actually bought small bottles of perfume products and wrapped it in beautifully in cellophane with a nice card in it where I thanked her for understanding. The woman took it the wrong way and complained to our boss behind my back. Obviously perfume is a very delicate matter for many people. One woman responded :" "so now I'm not even allowed to smell good?" But after some time she understood. They usually do as long as the direction does. It is not you who is the problem! It's the rude people having attitude problems.

Jun 30, 2016 2:09 PM

My immediate manager is good. He brought in his personal air purifier and plugged it in beside my desk. His daughters asthma had gotten a little better, she won't be severely ill without it.
He's trying to force the facilities manager to act now and purchase 2 of the good air purifiers.
My concerns got brushed off by the vp of my department. And i was face to face with him wearing my mask. :(

Jun 30, 2016 10:55 PM

The more people i meet the more i like my dogs...

Jul 08, 2016 2:07 PM

People can be extremely insensitive when they look at someone with a disability like chronic pain, allergies. If they can't see the disability they think the person is a hypochondriac and just looking for sympathy and attention. I myself didn't realize how terrible allergies can affect you until I started having allergies. When I worked in an office I would spray air freshener in my office and couple times during the day. My office manager came to me one day and asked if I would please stop spraying it because it was giving her headaches and nausea. I felt really bad and apologized. I was very aware after that about how perfumes and sprays can affect people with bad allergies. I knew they say if you are going to a doctor's office or any medical facility that you shouldn't wear perfume because people have horrible allergies to perfume. I really feel for you. Can your doctor write a letter to your employer informing them that your allergies to perfume are no joke and the symptoms it causes?

Jul 10, 2016 3:25 PM

HR is not there for you. I found this out the hard way. Long story short. My manager turned against me because of my disability and got me laid off. I talked to an attorney who told me it would cost me $40,000 to sue.

Jul 11, 2016 11:03 AM

Wow, that's sad RedefiningLife. I'm sorry they did that to you. Btw... Love your user name! 🙂💕🙏🌼

Jul 11, 2016 3:48 PM

Sorry, took so long to reply. My basic plan I wear a mask when I go outside, never go out if I don't have to and live the whole spring in the Er.

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