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Spiritual Healing

Jun 09, 2015 7:27 PM

I began a spiritual healing process through my church. I was a volunteer subject for a class of ministers in training.

I was rather irritated when the teacher said I my perception of the pain outweighed the pain, itself, saying we need to heal the mind to heal the body. Am I wrong to be just slightly peeved?

By the way, I still hurt!

Jun 09, 2015 7:52 PM

You have every right to be peeved about that. That seems like just another way to say "It's all in your head."

Jun 09, 2015 8:45 PM

I think there is some truth to that. I don't think that the way she said it was right. She should have explained what she was saying. I don't think we can do it on our own for the most part. But when you think about it, the most common thing a doctor does for patients when they deal with chronic pain, is prescribe them an anti-depressant. It changes the way you think about pain. That is the same way with pain medicine. It doesn't take away pain, it produces endorphins so that it changes the way we feel about pain.

So our mind does have a lot to do with our pain. I imagine our spiritual heal has an effect on our happiness which changes the way we view pain. I think that is the way it should have been said. It should never been said like it is a reflection on you. Like you did something wrong which makes you have more pain. Are you sure that is what she was saying? I hope the way I addressed it makes you feel better. I am sure you are a great person who is doing all they can to work on thei pain. It sounds like you took that ministers class to make you happy which would have helped your pain. She should have noticed and said that too.

Jun 09, 2015 10:01 PM

Yeah, I agree with the feedback received so far. I am looking forward to further experiences; although I really would like to say something to the teacher of that class. I took and passed a class on pain mgmt through my HMO about six years ago. I even made it a subject of study while I was in grad school. And, yes... those were his exact words. All I can think of are the words of my physical medicine specialist from years ago. He said, "it's not in your head. It's in your back!"

Jun 09, 2015 11:12 PM

I hope I didn't offend moon

Jun 10, 2015 11:38 PM

Moonrabitzmom, I'd have been upset too. It's like when I told my coworkers about the large mass that I had, and one said "We'll pray this thing to disappear right now." I told her thanks, but the doctors need to open me up to find and fix all the damage I knew I'd likely have (& did, from previous surgery experiences). She looked at me and said, "you must not believe God can heal you." My response was, "I believe He can heal me and will. But I also believe He caused this mass to start bleeding so the doctors would listen, take me seriously and find the problem." She was speechless. πŸ™πŸŒΌ

Jun 11, 2015 8:09 PM

FlappysLady81 I love that answer. It is perfect. Thank you in advance because I am stealing it.

Jun 11, 2015 8:12 PM

You're welcome! Truth is truth ☺

Jun 11, 2015 10:16 PM

While I believe in healing, I have my limits.

Jun 12, 2015 10:52 AM

We all do Moonrabitzmom. I have doctors who have thought it's all in my head too. They are no longer my doctors. Every symptom I've had so far it's related to a diagnosed cause except for the hand tremors. My suspicion is room my neck but because the damage I have isn't severe enough for surgery (or the doc is to afraid to attempt) I'm hanging in limbo waiting.

While the cause of your symptoms may not be visible, it does not mean our symptoms are in your head. Your anger and frustration is justified. I hope you do find another doctor who will listen and investigate your symptoms, and if unable to find the cause will refer you out to a more specialized provider. πŸ™πŸŒΌ

Jun 13, 2015 9:26 AM

Well said, Flappsy. I wish I could have seen your coworker's face. That was the perfect response and oh so true

Jun 13, 2015 1:13 PM

Yes, God uses the skills of others to accomplish his will. So it would make sense that he uses doctors to help us when we are ill. He just cautions us to not put our complete faith in other men when we are to put that faith in him. Sometimes science and medicine can become a God. Many doctors and scientist don't believe in God, only science. Not that I am saying we fall into that category. It is just a trend today. It only makes sense that though that with the pain and illnesses we have, that we use modern, up to date medicine. I am sure there are others like me out there. After I get the help I need. After I get a procedure that alleviates a lot of pain, I thank God for providing a way out of some pain. Once I get the help I need now, I will be offering him a big prayer. I hope you all are feeling as well as you can today.

Jun 14, 2015 5:20 PM

When I had my anteriordiskectomy in 05 the surgeon and antesiologist came in my little cubicle where I was waiting on my turn and aked could they have prayer over me. I was blown away and of course I said yes ! I need all the prayers I can get. He told me they do this before every surgery they do. I was so at peice when they carried me back I wasn't scared anymore. I knew God was in controlling of this surgery, and it was sucessful. Six weeks later the Syrinx was gone, but in 2010 it has come back unfortunately.

Jun 15, 2015 10:54 AM

I am so grateful for this community. I am finally pain free, a week post-op. Although, I did wake up this morning with a sudden fever, headache, and some difficulty breathing. All of my muscles have been cramping-up. But, otherwise, I really don't feel sick... Strange!

Jun 19, 2015 5:15 PM

I have a vibrant Christian faith. That does not stop me from believing that church folk have a lot to answer for. One problem is that such classes are often started by well meaning people who have no expertise in the medical world. I was teaching in an inner city school under a high level of stress. This resulted in a breakdown with associated panic attacks. My wife advised me to attend a healing group. They wanted to cast demons out of me. You have every right to be upset. Just remember they have the best of intentions, but often the worse knowledge.

Jun 19, 2015 7:26 PM

I agree JollyRoger. πŸ™πŸŒΌ

Jun 20, 2015 9:44 PM

Moon, refresh my memory please. Are you the one that had the facet joint injections about a week ago or so? My stupid brain doesn't always think straight

Jun 20, 2015 10:24 PM

I agree also with what you are saying.

Jun 22, 2015 4:20 AM

Yes. Yes I did. As long as I watch my activities, they seem to be holding-up. I have no plans of returning to intolerable pain until after the Fourth. I'm the only person capable of driving to the lake. The lack of pain appears to do more with the steroids and numbing agent than any form of healing.

Jun 22, 2015 7:44 AM

Depending on how far you'll be driving, try to stop every now and then so you can get out and stretch & walk around to let the blood flow in your legs and back. I'll be praying you'll have less pain than you expect! πŸ™πŸŒΌ

Jun 25, 2015 2:42 AM

In His perfect timing... Not theirs ! Many awesome people in the bible had a "thorn in their side".

Peter... Job...

Your promised a new beginning πŸ’•... Everyday. Keep your faith... That the Holy Spirit guide you to peace, comfort... And wiser ChristiansπŸ˜‡

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