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Suicide from new CDC rules on opiates

Dec 21, 2016 6:48 PM

so i seen my physician today.now keep in mind i was taking 20mgh butrans patch 90 10mg of oxycodone and 400mg of ultram 30 2 mg of klonopin and 30 mg of temazepam a month.i took my self no one told me to no dr etc off everything but 400mg of ultram.now im moved to 150mg of ultram a day and excpeted to make 60 50mg pills last 3 months WHAT THE FUK..i spent 6 yrs trying to get help first time around just to get a fukn mri and only after i tried to take my life to this day i wish they never restarted my heart.then after that i spent 6 yrs in a pain managment clinic wasting thousands of dollars..so my dr having everything on file even having a implant put in my back does this to me..idk what to do.im tired i dont have it in me to find a dr who will help.the thing is the cdc rule is no more than 90mg of morphine or equivalent.i was taking 40 now 15mg equivelant.i just want to cry.i start classes to strengthen my back tomorrow i stretch workout hydro massage its not like i just wanna take pain pills i hate um but i have no choice i hurt like fuk everyday.the marijuana is only gd for the muscle pain and it helps me tolerate it better does nothing for my lower spine or the hellish nerve pain wtf just wtf idk what to do im more than likely going to break here n a few months and off myself.its fukt the rate of suicide has jumped since those new guidlines mothers fathers grandmas etc are killing themselves cause they cant get help anymore and i dont blame um live eberyday for the rest of your life in agonizing pain

Dec 21, 2016 8:08 PM

Not only that now your everyday person is turning to heroin to help the pain raising the risk for overdose infection hiv hep c n so on and guess what happens after that the methadone and suboxone clinics will be pack big pharma n the goverment still win smfh

Dec 22, 2016 1:48 AM

Do you mind my asking where you live? Maybe some of us might know of options :) they might be available to you in your area.

For those living with Chronic Pain suicide is the leading cause of death. Unfortunately it doesn't just affect the one who is commuting it. I know, have had family members and dear friends who chose that route.

(((( gentle hugs )))) praying your doctor either widens up or that you find a better alternative.

Dec 22, 2016 8:47 AM

SOZKI, I don't know where you saw or read that ruling but I know folks on 300mg extended release Morphine a day PLUS a buttload of other shit and it's not a problem

Dec 22, 2016 9:49 AM

SOZKI. I am so sorry you are feeling so bad. Hang in there. I practice mindfulness and yoga and that helps, but my pain does not seem as debilitating as yours. Please hang in there. I hope you find a compassionate Dr. who will help you.

Dec 22, 2016 10:51 AM

Always in pain thats what a general physician can write a pm dr has no limits.thats what the cdc site said..and mimikay im in wisconsin

Dec 22, 2016 10:55 AM

Seriouse i cant get this out of my head i want to go back to work how is that possible i want to vetter my life start school n augest as of now looks like getting back to work n school is out of the question which again might as well end my life im 35 i wake up daily with no purpose trying to waste the day i cant do that much longer that alone chews my desire to live and i think if a normal life is unatainable whats the point of going on in pain 2

Dec 22, 2016 11:13 PM

My doctor is a general practitioner and he prescribes all my meds. Not sure that site is accurate, i just had to sign a personal responsibility waiver

Dec 23, 2016 8:00 AM

SOZKY, there's always reason to live. Your pain doesn't define you. Yes, you're young and have things you want to do. They don't have to be off the table because you're in pain. Go to school part time. Try online schooling. There are so many things in this world that are gifts to all of us.
You woke up this morning (in pain but you woke up), you can see the sunshine (or rain/snow) and it's beauty, I'm sure that even in pain there are things that being a smile to your face. These are all the things you need to hold onto. It's not always easy to hold a positive attitude and think this way (believe me, I have days of struggle and tears). However, there is always something that will pull you up. Listen to your favorite music, get lost in a light movie or any movie you love. (Who cares if you watch it or have it on for background noise). Hang in there. You're amongst people who know what you're dealing with and how you feel. You got this.. sending well wishes and positive vibes your way!!!

Dec 23, 2016 10:32 AM

Happy i got um from the cdc site..drs can prescribe but most wont they send you to pm clinics even out south they did that.which is fine but im not wasting thousands of dollars my time to do what ive already done

Dec 23, 2016 10:34 AM

Alwaysinpain i have no fight left in me for medical stuff took yrs n my trying to take my own life before i got help then more hell and now they want me to do a repeat of the last 6 yrs injections burns pt etc im done i cant do it anymore sorry if i sound negative im just being real plus i died inside yrs ago

Dec 23, 2016 10:35 AM

Plus i still think they can but most drs are to scared

Dec 23, 2016 11:30 AM

Have you tried getting a referral to Mayo Clinic.

Am sorry - I don't remember your diagnosis but I know that Mayo has a few pain management clinics where they can specifically address what is causing your pain.

Dec 23, 2016 11:41 AM

I go to mayo already there useless it takes weeks to months just to get a apt

Dec 23, 2016 11:43 AM

Mimikay ddd bulge discs pushing against nerves

Dec 23, 2016 2:23 PM

Contact Johns Hopkins pain clinic. I was on tons of pain pills plus numerous nerve burnings for my back and monthly injections in my hips just to be able to stand and walk. I contacted Hopkins and spent three months inpatient to get treatment for chronic pain . it didn't get rid of pain but they helped me handle how my body reacted to the pain. As far as what the CDC recommends for the dosage and amount of pain meds that differs between state to state. I work at a pharmacy and see tons of scripts for narcotics and most of the time it is what your insurance will allow. Your doctor can write for more than the "normal" amount but it has to be an approved course of treatment. This is for people who are in end stage cancer or hospice. Do not be mad at the medical community,but rather the people who are obtaining narcotics illegally.(fake scripts or going to pill mills) The laws and guidelines got tighter due to those people. As far as feeling dead inside that needs to be addressed by a therapist who specializes in patients who suffer from chronic pain. There is hope out there if you look in the right place. Try Johns Hopkins,might be a waiting list to get in but it is worth it.

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