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Aug 19, 2015 8:48 PM

I am wondering if anyone has experienced this and if it sounds illegal.

I was diagnosed with SOD(sphincter if oddi dysfunction-a biliary disease) 7 years ago. I recently had a relapse of pain this past June and my primary doc wanted me to see the general GI specialist in town. I hadd nausea f for two weeks along with excruciating pain in my upper right abdomen. I thought I was seeing the doctor only to be seen by the physician assistant. her conclusion was I was constipated. I cleaned out and after two weeks the pain did not go away . WHEN I called to seen again they would not see me for 2 months . I was fed up ! At that point I insisted on going back to University of Michigan to see the specialist I have seen before for the SOD. He apparently was no longer there, so I saw another DR. This SOD specialist felt that I had IBS (irritable bowel syndrome)and needed to see a local gastroenterologist.

I decided to try and find another regular GI doctor. Everyone that I've contacted will not see me, because " I already have a GI doctor here, and they cannot except me". Has anybody else experienced this scenario? I don't understand why I can't see another doctor if I want to. In the meantime I'm having so much pain I'm beside myself and it's very hard to function.

A side note, I am NOT a drug seeker so this is not a reason why these GI doctors are not seeing me.

Sorry this is so long.

Aug 19, 2015 8:58 PM

Please don't give up to fight against your pain. I am from Germany I can't help with the US medical doctor system. But I will pray for you.

Aug 19, 2015 9:03 PM

Ty birgit, prayers are appreciated.

Aug 20, 2015 1:33 AM

If you are trying to see a doctor within the same building, they usually will not see you because one doctor does not want to get involved with another doctors patients. Sometimes when someone can't wait to see a doctor and they go see another to see what they say, they sometimes end up going back to the original doctor and telling them that so and so told them that the problem is this and not what you say I have. No doctor wants to speak about another doctor or their treatment methods. That is why it is so difficult to get a doctor to testify in court against another doctor. I feel like you do, that if you are not being helped by one doctor you should be able to go to another even if you have been treated by someone else in the same building. Next time you call and get an answer like that, I would ask what difference does it make if I saw another doctor... He didn't help me and I am looking to see if this doctor can. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers... Good Luck.

Aug 20, 2015 7:33 AM

They are actually in different towns. I just feel it's my right to see whoever I want, but feel I'm being forced tho see this doctor's physician assistant. I have not seen the physician in three years, huge apparently does not see press anymore. Her only does procedures at hospital.

Aug 20, 2015 7:57 AM

The American system confuses me. You pay for your treatment and, therefore, should have choice in who you see. Yet there you are, being left without appropriate help because they don't want to step on the toes of fellow physicians! If I was paying a bunch of money to these ppl I would expect a choice in who I saw! And so should you. Whether they like it or not, you should make yourself very clear to them; you pay them, therefore you, as the customer, have the right to pick and choose.
As it is, here we can see pretty much whomever we choose and that's under the NHS. Privately, people get a choice too. It's common practice in the UK that any surgery contains x amount of doctors and nurses and we can choose to see a different one each time if we wanted to. It helps us to find the GP that works with us how we feel is the best available. I'm surprised that the American system comes across as so stifling and restricted.
I can only suggest you write up your concerns (eg: not receiving correct treatment, lack of specialists in the area and so on).
I can only hope that things work themselves out for you as best they can and that your pain levels decrease forthwith.

Aug 20, 2015 10:20 AM

Chocolat, did you tell them you want a second opinion? Sometimes that will make the difference. I live in GA and everything AlwayZ said is true with my local docs. I scheduled for a second opinion, and usually after seeing me they agreed to take me as their patient.

I do have IBS, primarily constipation. It can absolutely cause severe pain if my bowels won't move! After my last abdominal surgery my bowels became over-sluggish and my doctor finally (after tests and ER visits) put me on Linzess. It has helped keep my bowels functioning more normal; before it could be 5-7 days between bowel movements. I had sudden shooting pains, constant sharp pains, and even nausea before the Linzess. At one point they thought it was my liver or pancreas. I hope you can get seen and get help to end this pain. You'll be in my prayers. 🙏🌼

Aug 20, 2015 1:37 PM

I so appreciate your your input.When you have pain where is it located? Would you feel the pain go away after a bm? I am going back to my primary doc in two weeks. I will ask him about a second opinion, and maybe move from there. I called the GI doctor I had been seeing and of course they won't see me until the end of October again. In the meantime, I hurt.

Aug 20, 2015 1:40 PM

Sorry I entered before I finish my message, PJB. Maybe I should just move to the UK! It sounds like your health care system is working much better I'm here.

Aug 20, 2015 3:55 PM

I've been in the same situation where a doctor says its one thing but either the proposed treatment doesn't work or I what they are trying to tell me doesn't make sense or feel right so I've gone back to my primary doc a couple of times and requested a referral to see another doc for another opinion.

If the docs are part of the same provider group then they won't (as others have mentioned) get involved with the doctor's they work with patients. If they are not then you have every right to go see another doc. The down side is it usually takes months to get in to see new doctor's and its only going to keep getting worse because of the new health insurance laws. More patients with insurance same number of providers.

If your pain continues or gets worse an ER visit might move the process along a little quicker. If thats an option for you.

I hope you feel better soon.

Aug 20, 2015 3:59 PM


as much as I hate going too the er I will go,as these physicians are not able to see me. I do believe our system is broken.

Aug 21, 2015 11:54 AM

Hi Chocolat - I completely understand...I dread going to the ER too and I've put myself through unnecessary crippling pain being my normally stubborn self trying to wait it out lol

I hope you feel better soon!

Aug 21, 2015 11:55 AM

And our system is very broken!!

Aug 21, 2015 9:05 PM

If your insurance has a nurse advocate call and speak to one. They can give you the name of another and some will call for you..If a doctor refuses to see you that is a legal no no.

Aug 21, 2015 9:07 PM

Thank you zetarlov, I Will call them Monday for sure!

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