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What to do when the pain meds I'm take stop working

Oct 13, 2014 7:03 AM

I've went all the way up the chart with Vicodin 500 750 narcos. 5/325. 10 /325 so the narco don't seem to work as good as before so my question is what's next Percocet oxcodine what do I tell. a doctor who don't seem to lesson to well

Oct 13, 2014 9:47 AM

nobody has any input on this matter I've got twenty mins before I leave to see the doc

Oct 13, 2014 10:13 AM

Sorry just seen the post.Damn phone lol.. Go in there and be really positive. Tell ur Dr exactly how u are feeling.. If no luck then ask to see somebody else.

Oct 13, 2014 11:57 AM

well I went and told him how I felt tears and all so he switch me from narcos to percoctet 10/325 and said I'll see you in 30 days thanks for your help debzieh100

Oct 13, 2014 4:24 PM

sorry I didn't see this post earlier, one of those Monday's:-(
after waiting six weeks, I have an appt tomorrow with a pain management Dr. I've been on Norco 10/325 for a little over 7 months, and they are working anymore. Are the Percocets working for you?

Oct 13, 2014 5:49 PM

so far there working good I was at a 8 and now I'm at a 6

Oct 13, 2014 6:23 PM

that's great, anything to help lower the pain I'm all for. I hope tomorrow goes well for my appt. I'm nervous and really don't know why I am, or should be.

Oct 14, 2014 2:06 PM

my pain management Dr prescribed me percocet 10/325 and Gabapentin. He said I have nerve damage from my surgery, well that would explain my constant knee pain.
I'm not familiar with Gabapentin, anyone taking it? Any side effects? I used that Move Free joint health yesterday, the name is right it moved me, I was in a bad way with diarrhea this am. I don't feel like taking Move Free anymore

Oct 14, 2014 10:32 PM

I've been on Norco and Neurontin for over a year and they seemed that they weren't working for the pain, after my pain management doctor explained to me about the Spinal Cord Stimulator I told him I'd have it done and I'm thankful I did , I now have about 60% less pain, I had the Boston Scientific stimulator put in and they are great when it comes to answering any questions and doing any adjustments to it

Oct 18, 2014 1:43 PM

I'd ask your doctor to put you on a longer acting pain medicine, like extended release morphine, to take around the clock, along with a short acting med for breakthrough pain. You usually don't get as many peaks and valleys that way. It's kind of hard to give any other suggestions without knowing your specific condition. Have you seen a pain specialist? Most general practice/internal medicine docs don't know how to treat chronic pain and won't escalate meds beyond Vicodin/Percocet. Finding a good doctor can be a real challenge.

Oct 19, 2014 9:40 AM

I started with the same drug but now I'm on the subsys which is taken under the tongue. At first it helps but now nothing keeps me out of the pain

Oct 19, 2014 2:47 PM

just my 2 cents on Neurontin/gabapentin - I was on it a couple years for "non-specific neuropathy." that stuff made me stupid. seriously - it affected my cognitive ability, so I seamed myself off of it and couldn't tell a difference in the pain. I was also smarter after I dumped it. ;-)

Oct 19, 2014 3:48 PM

Percocet is a breakthrough pain medication, it should not be used as a regular method of controlling chronic pain. Percocet, Vicodin, Oxycontin, Oxyneo are all narcotics and are an opiate type drug. Opiates numb you and numb the entire body including muscles which is why some people have issues of constipation when using them as they numb the digestive muscles too. Some people also get a euphoric feeling when using them.

Percocet and Vicodin are a breakthrough drug

Oct 19, 2014 4:25 PM

sorry I keep getting cut off and can't seem to write my entire reply so I will have to do it in parts

Percocet and Vicodin are breakthrough pain relief drugs that are usually used for controlling acute pain. They are also used for breakthrough pain relievers in combination with other pain medications. Oxyneo and Oxycontin are in the same family as Percocet and Vicodin but they are a slow release drug. They are all a narcotic and in the opiate family.

Oct 19, 2014 4:28 PM

Breakthrough drugs are commonly used in combination with other drugs like the Oxy drugs as well as neuro pain blockers such as Gabapentin and Lyrica as well as others. The breakthrough drug is used when the the pain has broken through the control of the other drugs.

5/325 and 10/325 are perocets. The 5 and 10 stands for the oxycontin dosage and the 325 stands for the Tylenol dosage. The breakthrough drug instantly releases into your bloodstream and will last up to 4 hours. The oxy drugs are slow release and will last up to 12 hours

Oct 19, 2014 4:32 PM

I would be very cautious of using breakthrough drugs only for controlling pain. If you are using more than 4 pills a day for more than a couple months then I would recommend you talk to your doctor about alternatives. Your body becomes dependent on opiates and weening yourself off opiates can cause some uncomfortable issues. Opiates can also be addictive and if you become addicted then not only do you have to deal with the dependency issues during the weening process, you will have to deal with the psychological issues too and that can be very difficult for some people.

Oct 19, 2014 4:36 PM

I would suggest you be open, honest and truthful with your doctor about your pain and what the pain medications are doing to you. I have found being stern with the doctor and demanding the best known pain relief best suited to your situation is best and if that includes opiates then so be it. If the opiates are providing you the relief you need then use them as prescribed. Weening yourself off them will be another process for another day, when your stronger and better suited to deal with the weening process.

Good luck everyone and I can sympathize with everyone who suffers with pain and those who suffer with chronic pain. I know what it is like to deal with extreme and agonizing pain and how it changes your life and how it effects you and others around you.

Oct 19, 2014 4:42 PM

PS, the side effects with neuro pain blockers like Lyrica and Gabapentin are numerous but most are not serious and if you can deal with the side effects in the short term then they will subside. I found them to make me foggy headed, forgetful, slight blurred vision, ringing in the ears and a general lethargic feeling. This can last a while and for me it was 3 months. I suggest being patient with dealing with the side effects but make sure you tell your pharmacist and doctor about what side effects you are suffering from.

Oct 21, 2014 1:28 AM

I have been on some heavy duty pain meds for many years. my primary doctor started me on Vicodin before I'd ever heard of pain management. these days I see a pain management doctor (18 years now), and I'm on mega meds. I am on 100mg extended release Morphine 3x a day, 30-60mg of Roxycodone for breakthrough pain 3x per day, Ativan (1mg) 3x per day for anxiety, Zanaflex (4mg) for spasms 4x a day, Temazepan (30mg) for sleep and Zoloft (200mg) 1x per day for depression. that is a tremendous amount of medication for anyone and this is what it was recently cut down to. I still carry a pain level of an 8 ON medication and the doctor wants me to have the trial for the morphine pump, In the last 16 years, I've had 28 procedures... all to no avail. (I wish they could replace my shoulder. I wish you all, all the luck in the world finding help from your pain, etc...

Oct 21, 2014 3:35 AM

KathyA1965 - our histories are quite similar. I had a morphine pump implanted in July. It has helped more than the high doses of oral morphine. The surgery itself was probably one of the easiest I've had. It is taking longer than I thought it would to fully recover, though. The trial itself was like having an epidural injection. It provided the best relief I'd had since I started having chronic pain in 2006.

Oct 21, 2014 3:37 AM

I am quite ambivalent about the pump, though, as you'll see from the other thread about it.

Nov 08, 2014 2:51 AM

Tired of paranoid docters anyone tempted to drink to that?

Nov 10, 2014 6:19 PM

for sure xdancer but ive been that route and it didnt work eiter

Nov 17, 2014 6:28 PM

It is very difficult to maintain an adequate pain regiment because as you continue to take the same meds over and over again the body becomes immune to them and whereas at first those drugs "worked wonders" now they are like taking Tylenol or baby aspirin. Your body is telling you, "I need something different or what you are taking needs to be stronger now." It is a difficult decision to make. And before making a rushed, uneducated decision, I would suggest doing some research. There are several things you can try before continuing down the medication trail. There are devices such as TENS Units and Spinal Cord Stimulators, both are devices that interrupt pain signals that help to stop or relieve pain. Then, there is acupuncture, aromatheropy, hot rocks, and various others non invasive treatments that are designed to help with chronic pain. Try something else before you continue with medication. Try to let that be your last resort. Then if you have to go that route, you will know you tried find another solution first.

Nov 17, 2014 8:07 PM

All I can say is be careful with those highly addictive narcotics. I know you are in lots of pain and I can understand, but as being formerly addicted there is nothing worse than coming off those things. My Dr was prescribing them too...I would look seriously into alternatives as I would not wish what I went through on anyone...

Nov 19, 2014 8:06 AM

There is a big difference between addiction vs dependency.

If you take narcotics for a lengthy period, your body will become dependent on them. If you plan to stop taking them then you will need to ween yourself off them slowly because it can be dangerous to your health if you stop cold turkey and you run the risk of high blood pressure, heart attack, stroke and seizure. Only stop them under the advice of your doctor.

Addiction is when you mind becomes dependent on the narcotic and you feel you have an overwhelming desire for the drug rather than a physical need. This can be dangerous in that a lot of addicts will reach out for drugs that are not prescribed and this can be devastating for many reasons, including social and economic reasons. If you feel you are addicted rather than just physically dependent then you need to reach out and seek professional help. Talk to your doctor, they can get you the help you need.

Nov 19, 2014 8:40 AM

I've been on 10/326 vicoden 8 a day for years. Isn't working at all. I'm going to start a new weekly patch I'm not home and don't remember the name but it's new. . Starts with a B. Once a week. 10 mg. We'll see. Tried fentanyl and didn't help

Nov 19, 2014 8:43 AM

Oops 10/325. I'm a bit worried because it's also an opioid agonist. Afraid it'll put me in withdrawal if it works against the vicoden while I'm transitioning.

Nov 19, 2014 1:57 PM

I hope that the meds continue to help you and so very sorry that I wasn't on earlier to read your messages. You need a doctor that listens. There's not a big different of what you were on and the Percocet. If that doesn't cut it, then try a fentynal patch or many others. You hve to work to find medication you can take less oh but takes away pain".... It will give you some wiggle room if they need to up the dosage. Give it a girl!!! Best of luck you!

Nov 23, 2014 3:33 AM

switch to methadone! low cross tolerance!

Nov 25, 2014 12:43 AM

Methadone really didn't work for very long for me. Pain levels remained around an 8 and sometimes higher ON medication. It's a rough way to live. No matter the meds you may be on. I went from OxyContin to Methadone and now on Morphine (100mg/3x per day). Hang tough, there are lots of us here with the same pain situation, etc... We can help one another get through

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